9/11 - Conspiracy or not?

[Bryon]

I recently found a video about 911 that I find to be quite interesting. It's pretty long, but, like I said I found it to be interesting so I watched it all.

It discusses some factual evidence "proving" many, (Almost all), of the details of 9/11 as "wrong" and "incorrect".

Here is the link to it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=Loose+Change​

I'm not sure whether to believe it, or not. If what they are sayign is completely true, then yea, I believe it. Pretttyyy crazy stuff.

What do you guys think?

 

[Brandon]

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[Alejandro]

I didn't see the whole video because it's really long, but the part's I saw, I'm sorry, but I think most of them are right. This is not the first time I hear it.

 

[Spartan Erik]

lol bunch of bull
its not a conspiracy, its the real deal

the thing that has me apalled is the majority of people's responses to the war. think about it, we lost more men and women in 9/11 than at pearl harbour. and when pearl harbour was bombed we were willing to destroy japan, so why dont we have the same attitude towards middle eastern countries?

lol i swear, the majority of the u.s. has become wussified

yes nobody likes war, but this is something that must be done
if we dont finish this up in the middle east, our children and our grand children will be fighting the terrorists we didnt manage to kill..

 

[Bryon]

That's true about the middle east and all.. I don't have a problem with it. Hell if I was in the military I would love to go over there and "fight".

Did you watch that video though? Some of the facts they bring up about the Pentagon.. Wow.. That's all I have to say. It's so crazy though if what they are sayign is completely true. I'm not sure whether I should believe it or not though...

 

[Richard]

Did you know the news you see and the news I see are diffrent? The fact that you blame the entire middle east proves it.

1. Most of the of the deaths during the war were caused my accidents, mainly due to hardware failure because they were not tested in harsh desert conditions.
2. Even more people died after the war was declared "over" and they still are
3. I live in South Africa, the government during the Apartied years was using the exact same techniques as the US government is using now since we've been through it we know what to look out for.
4. Israel, Kuwait and the UAE (Dubai) are in the Middle East, do you want to bomb them to.
5. If you remember Bush Snr. did business with both Saddam Hussein and Usama Bin Laden. As far as I'm concerned this is just payback

From my view you may have won the battle but are loosing the war.

 

[SEÑOR]

I think theres a big conspiracy between all the world leaders. I heard it on the radio(mojo radio am640 toronto) on a show called A view from Space with the space man I forget what he called it but you should here him its interesting. But hes a nutcase

 

[Spartan Erik]

Israel, Kuwait and the UAE (Dubai) are in the Middle East, do you want to bomb them to.

If you remember Bush Snr. did business with both Saddam Hussein and Usama Bin Laden. As far as I'm concerned this is just payback
From my view you may have won the battle but are loosing the war.

lol the major reason we are at war, besides 9/11, is because we support israel


heck, if it were up to me, id cut ties with israel to satisfy the arabs who disagree with u.s. foreign policty (i agree with arabs, we shouldnt support israel, since all they're doing is blowing up palestinians with the 3 billion dollars we give them each year.. ITS OUR TAX DOLLARS!)


terrorists would probably leave us alone for the most part knowing that we'd stop supporting the jews there

and alot of this can be blamed on president clinton, he left the issue alone when it could have been finished before it got as wide scale as it is currently

 

[Alejandro]

I think I may agree with you Richard. News are different on each countries and well, you will never hear that in your country, nor here, since we can't say anything about you, or our economy goes down like hell, but...

 

[dsfreak]

Well, my opinion, I think I beleive this. If you actually watch it, with all of its facts, it makes REAL sense. Also, if you watch it, it tells you why they think it was done, and no, it doesn't mention war as one of the reasons. Well, I reccommend watching it. I might even upload a gvi, which is the full, non-streamed version of the video, playable in the GVP.... Anyhow, it was a good movie, and I believe it was true.

 

[general stoner]

Some people say that this video is all fake BUT!

Being in a AP Physics class IT is scientifically impossible for a 124 foot wide aircraft to create a 16 foot wide hole in a building and disentigrate in 2000 degree temprature. it takes 3000 degrees of constant heat for 2+ hours to make steel plyable "Bendy" for the smart ones out there. Also, the major phsics law... F=MA "force equals mass time acceleration" the mass of the plane being 100 tons for ease of numbering with a de-acceleration of 530 M/h/s "miles per hour per second"
159,000 Metric tons of force.
If you didnt notice I had to do some conversions in the units.

That amount of force will destroy 99% of anything it comes in contact with... Unless anyone in the world can tell me that the plane had its wings ripped of and magically disentigrate before hitting anything I will assure you there was no 100 ton airplane that hit that building.

 

[Bryon]

Yea good look at it General Stoner. I've watched it twice now, and I'm almost a "complete believer" that the Pentagon was not hit by a plane. The factual evidence they show almost proves it completely.. (Assuming what they say is 100% true.)

I remember the morning of 9/11, I was sitting in a class and I watched on the news when the towers collapsed. It was soo crazy, I don't think I'll ever forget it.

Anyways, the only thing I don't understand with this is:
If this entire thing (Or even parts of it) was made up by the United States government, how can it be kept secret? Surely it would take fairly large amount of people participating in the entire thing. With as many people as it would require though, I think it would be quite hard to keep EVERYONE from talking..

 

[general stoner]

The way they keep everyone quite is with contracts. Every signle person involved signs there life away on a contract and if they blab...*Makes throat sliting motion* The government controls so many things they will simply discredit the person as well, they will use there paid scientists to prove what there saying is possible and all that good fun.

 

[moose]

Wow, great share.

I'm sure that it pisses everyone off that the government is hiding this stuff and no FBI or any forces are doing **** about it. Like he says on the video, if there's nothing to hide, why not show us some of the videos or answer any questions?

The big thing was probably for the gold under the Twin towers.
Rediculous if you ask me. Right now, if anybody that was helping out was right here, I would definaltely go right up to his face and say "faggot".

And yeah, where the hell did the people who got of the 93? NASA stuff? Now, are they talking about abducting the people, keeping them hidden from the world so the truth doesn't leak out.. and maybe even scientific research on them like the Nazi's did?

Craazy crazy stuff here. I think EVERYONE should take that video seriously. Too bad that it'll eat up 1:30 of your life, but you know you would waste it on something else anyways.

Sheesh.. imagining all the conspiracy stuff that could be happening right now really frightens me.

 

[dharmil]

Conspiracy

 

[Richard]

lol the major reason we are at war, besides 9/11, is because we support israel

The situation in Israel and the war in Iraq are two totally separate things. For one thing Israel is Jewish and Iraq Islamic.

Not to mention that the problems in Israel started long before the US even existed.

 

[Bryon]

lol the major reason we are at war, besides 9/11, is because we support israel


heck, if it were up to me, id cut ties with israel to satisfy the arabs who disagree with u.s. foreign policty (i agree with arabs, we shouldnt support israel, since all they're doing is blowing up palestinians with the 3 billion dollars we give them each year.. ITS OUR TAX DOLLARS!)


terrorists would probably leave us alone for the most part knowing that we'd stop supporting the jews there

[Off Topic]
I don't think the war in Iraq/Afganistan has anything to do with Israel, like Richard said. They are 2 completely and very different things going on.

Not to get that off topic, but, why would you cut ties with Israel and side with the Arab countries? Do you know what the Bible says about countries that "go against" Israel?

(If your not religious, then nevermind.
[/Off Topic]

Anyways, I agree with Moose saying that everyone should watch this video. I don't like it how some people I know, that I have talked about it to, immediately disagree and say it's all made up, when they haven't watched the video at all. Kinda pisses me off actually, but that's just my opinion.

I think I'm going to try and find some of the documents and sources they use in the video, and attempt to see if they are showing the entire "story" behind each piece of evidence they present. I wish the cited their sources though. I know they have some things in the credits, but not that much compared to what is in the video.

I also think another study should be done about the cell phone calls from the plane at the various heights, and see if the results of the experiment they talk about in the video could be reproduced. (You know like the .004 chance of making a successful call from the plane and all.. )

 

[Colin]

I went to go watch the rest of the movie but it says the file could not be found, and when I go to the website it will not load. does some one have another link??

EDIT:: NVM it works now, their server must of been down or something.

 

[Cynical]

Wiiiiicked long movie. When you guys said "long" I was thinking like 10 minutes or so. Pff. 1.3 hours. Unfortunately I am too impatient to watch the whole movie, but it seems very well made.

It's interesting how the narrator compares 911 to the top-secret plans of 1962... I have mixed feelings on whether or not it is a conspiracy. If it is, the government did a damn good job covering themselves.

 

[Bryon]

Did you see the details of the "mystery" around 1962? Especially the one with the plane that would land, then a drone would go up, explode, etc etc? Woo.. Same kinda thing could have happened on 9/11.. Maybe that is why they talked about it.. Wow, I just realized that. Hmm..