Do you use tables to control your web page content?

[sclewin]

Just as the title says. :rant2:

 

[TechAsh]

I know I shouldn't really, but I just find it easier to put everything in a simple table.
I have started to move away from tables now though.

*Moved to Crossfire*
It isn't a request for Programming Help so it doesn't fit there.

 

[sclewin]

*Moved to Crossfire*
It isn't a request for Programming Help so it doesn't fit there.

I'm sorry. You will probably need to move my other question.

Okay, you moved it. Thank you.

 

[TechAsh]

I'm sorry. You will probably need to move my other question.

Okay, you moved it. Thank you.

Yes, I moved them both at the same time.

 

[Trigintillion]

Well, tables and <div>'s are useful in their own specific areas. I usually put tables in to map out the outer structure of my sites, and then <div>'s to hold the content areas.

 

[nterror]

I keep reading that tables are done, and to always use <div> tags.

I remember coming across a few that recommended <ul> tags instead. I've done that about once, and never did it again. :eek4:

 

[brettzuya]

I keep reading that tables are done, and to always use <div> tags.

I remember coming across a few that recommended <ul> tags instead. I've done that about once, and never did it again. :eek4:

:nuts:hmm? <div><ul>? hmmm i have no any idea whats you suppose to mean.

 

[marshian]

I keep reading that tables are done, and to always use <div> tags.

I remember coming across a few that recommended <ul> tags instead. I've done that about once, and never did it again. :eek4:

<ul> tags define a list... you know:

<ul>
<li>Item 1</li>
<li>Item 2</li>
</ul>

 

[tnl2k7]

<ul> tags define an unordered list, <ol> for ordered ones (with numbers, not bullets), and <li> tags define list items. Not for page structure at all.

And tables are really annoying. I used to organise everything with them, but I'm a good boy now and use <div> tags to do it. It can take ages sometimes, but when you get the desired result at the end of it, it feels great.

Use <div>s!

-Luke.

 

[TechAsh]

There is a neat tool here called table to css, and it is supposed to be able to convert a template made with tables into one made using CSS. Unfortunately it's only a trial, but it may still be of some use.

 

[tnl2k7]

There is a neat tool here called table to css, and it is supposed to be able to convert a template made with tables into one made using CSS. Unfortunately it's only a trial, but it may still be of some use.

Seems like a scam site to me, I wouldn't trust them.

-Luke.

 

[TechAsh]

Seems like a scam site to me, I wouldn't trust them.

I wouldn't buy their software, but the trial seems to be fine, no viruses or anything, and it uninstalls correctly.

 

[ncusa367]

sometimes, im used to them

 

[MarioMaster]

I'm not too far into learning HTML yet, so I just use tables :lockd: . I'm thinking about switching over to xHTML, but I don't think I will. After I'm done with HTML, I'm going to learn CSS.

 

[nterror]

I cant seem to find it at the moment, but the site suggested <ul></ul> tags as an alternative to <div></div>. With enough CSS it works, but I wouldn't suggests it. Just brought it up in case someone else came across something like that. At the time it was interesting...but a headache soon followed. :rant2:

 

[chianghl]

i used the <ul></ul> for my panel navigation since it makes things neater. I normally use table as an outer shell for my site and then the div tags to arrange the contents within the table so that I can have more control over the layout of the site.

 

[sclewin]

I try my best at creating a website without tables for layout, but in some cases a table is much faster, easier, and works better. One such instance is when I need to simply place two objects beside each other. With tables you only need to create a small two column table and place the objects in each column.

In the future I plan on doing more reading on CSS and eventually I will probably reach the state where I am good enough to write all my pages without tables. Until then I will use them as little as possible.

 

[TechAsh]

I'm currently in the process of turning lots of my table based pages into ones with a nice CSS powered layout. But there are still a few things that I could do with tables that I haven't yet been able to do with DIVs and CSS.

 

[tnl2k7]

Tables are OK and should be used in places. For example, when you've got data which should be displayed in a table such as measurements. But using them for content organisation is a no-no.

-Luke.

 

[Smith6612]

Yeah, I use tables on my site. One of these days I'll probably switch to iFrames if I see that they are suitable enough, but I have to find a new site design and of course theme my forum.