Microsoft Linux - Myth or Reality ???

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mattyranks

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This is an interesting article i found on CNet.

I guess microsoft-linux is a posibility


Microsoft paying Novell $308 million for Linux pact


In one of the more complex examples of "cooptition" in the computer industry, Microsoft will pay Novell a net amount of $308 million to market and distribute its competitor's product. The five-year Microsoft-Novell partnership, unveiled last week, involves a mix of patent, technology and business issues. Novell disclosed details of the partnership in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Tuesday.
Microsoft will pay Novell $240 million for 350,000 coupons--70,000 per year--entitling customers to support and maintenance for Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Server, Novell Chief Executive Ron Hovsepian said Tuesday. In addition, Microsoft will spend $94 million over the five-year deal on its own sales and marketing work for Suse products.
Microsoft hopes the partnership will help the fortunes of its management software for virtualization, technology that lets different operating systems run simultaneously on the same server, said general counsel Brad Smith. "The principal purpose of this is to enable us to take our virtualization solution to market," he said.
The deal also involves patent-related payments. Microsoft will pay Novell a net amount of $108 million in an agreement under which both companies release each other from patent claims from past actions, Hovsepian.
However, that will be offset by Novell payments of at least $40 million over the course of the deal to ensure Microsoft won't sue Suse customers for patent infringement. The Novell payments are based on how much revenue Novell garners from sales of its Linux and Open Enterprise Server products.
"There are two things in the patent deal. We had to address proprietary code and we had to address open-source software," said Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith. "We addressed the proprietary issues through the net up-front payment. The open-source (part) we addressed through the percentage of revenue."
Also Tuesday, Novell said its agreement with Microsoft doesn't violate the General Public License (GPL), the license that governs the Linux kernel.
Eben Moglen, the attorney representing the Free Software Foundation, which created the GPL, raised the concern that Novell's pact with Microsoft could violate the license.

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Under the agreement, Microsoft directly provides Suse Linux customers a covenant that the company won't sue for patent infringement, Novell said.
Novell also posted a question-and-answers Web page addressing the patent issue. In it, Novell said it won't begin including code covered by Microsoft patents and that its Mono project, an open-source version of Microsoft's .Net software, doesn't infringe Microsoft patents.
Source: CNET
 
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Gates & Co. finally realized that Linux was starting to creep up on their Monopoly and had to do something ... partnering with them is probably the best business deal they have made in a long time.
 

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i'll have to agree with you

it has come to the point wher they have to accept that linux is a reall threat.
 

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Its probably no surprise to you guys but Microsoft also hired Linus Torvalds to work for them. I think its pretty safe to assume that Microsoft does indeed feel threatened by Linux.
 

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Yeah they probably do! However I still find Windows to be the superior OS!

No offence to any Linux Users out there!
 

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Linux will never become a trademark, the widespread usage of it so far will make it impossible. Therefore microsoft can NEVER use Linux as a trademark or whatever.
 

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It might be possible but i doubt it becuase microsoft is microsfot
 

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Not a myth or reality; it's improbable. Microsoft's OS after Vista will not be like Linux.. knowing the basic trend from Microsoft, a "new" OS consists of copying code and merely adding glitz and glamour, and "functionality" that is otherwise useless.
 

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I do think that Linux is a real threat to Microsoft. And what they did is totally expectable and also very helpful. (to Microsoft's Budget)
 

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Poor Microsoft, and about that Linus Torvalds working for microsoft, if i had known that one week earlier, i could've included that in my presentation and astonish my co-workers. They would be like OMFG LINUX RULEZ Teh WORLD!


and i would then again have to settle them down to go onto the next .ppt slide.
 

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Microsoft Linux, that's a laugh, have you ever thought of Bill Gates giving out free opensource softare. It is like putting back the toothpaste back in the tube. Linux will always be free and unlike microsoft they won't charge you anything.
 

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Agreed, i think Microsoft is starting to realize that their days of complete power are coming to an end and are trying desperately to secure other branches of the market
 

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Well, I'm not MS fanatic, but of course I always feel that Microsoft takes more than it should. You see girls and boys, while Windows may not be the best thing out there, and Linux does seem to be on a wonderful rise, I must note something important(that Microsoft remembers). If you walk into a store today and buy a PC, you will get Windows. The problem with linux is educating average users to use it.

I did once see that Dell sold some PCs with Linux factory installed, but that was online. Still no store bought PCs. It is like IE and Firefox. Sure, in many ways Firefox is better, but Firefox doesn't come preinstalled on your store bought PC. IE does however. For some reason most users are lazy and won't go out of their way to get some different software. Heck people buy MS Office when Open Office works just as well(from what I've seen), only it is about $150 on MS Office when they need Spreadsheets or something.

So whether anyone likes it or not, Microsoft not only dominates the field in almost all aspects of PCs, but they are still in the lead with barely anything in sight(behind them). I still think it will be years(at least 10) before Microsoft is truely hurt by the competition.

And once more, Vista is much better than anyone will credit it. It sold 40 million copies from what I've read, and aside from that, it is actually better than XP. YES, I said better. Sure, it eats 512 Mb of RAM every morning for breakfast, and then some more for lunch, but with todays computers we have enough RAM and processing power to handle it. Notice how the day Vista was released all the computer packages changed. Now dual core is standard as well as 1 GB of RAM.

I don't think this is in any way MS being worried the least bit about Linux coming up from behind them. If you carefully read the article, Microsoft is actually working with Novell, and it is hard to say that if they were worried, they will be of any assistance to their competitors.

Mac is the competition for MS right now and they are still a ways behind. Apples whole "we will only sell our OS with our hardware" thing is probably a big problem. So in the future(at least 10 years from now) Linux could be a real problem for MS, not so much because it is free, but because it runs on a PC, so there is an alternative to Microsoft's OS that can become popular enough and easy enough to obtain.


Just wait for it all. Companies will put Linux on their systems as the factory default and that is when Linux will rise. A slightly cheaper system that has the same specs as a more expensive system, and the Linux system would run a bit faster(lighter OS). And once that gets out, then developers will make more things for Linux(for instance, games). So then in this time span we will have a rise in Linux and it will be the only hope in bringing down MS(which of course will be after Bill leaves).
 
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