PS3, good for consumer?

[monky91]

Hmm, anyone of you here already having a PS3. It seem to be that it is really good.

See this article.
http://pcworld.com/article/id,127906-page,1/article.html

Why don't PC also use techniques like this?

 

[Zenax]

I am sorry to say that I really don't think the PS3 is worth the money that they are selling it for. Even if they decreased the price, and lossed even more mone (highly unlikely) I still wouldn't buy the console.

However, the only reason I think this is that I am a xbox follower, so I am bound to trash the console right?

Well not entirely true. I have tested out the playstation series, and I personally don't like them.

The graphics on them are not the best, and most of the games on the PS2 are also on xbox.

Hopefully, when the price has come down a bit I shall buy a 360.

But that is my oppinion, and you do not have to agree with me.

Regards,
Zenax

 

[monky91]

But isn't PS3 use 4 graphic cards?

 

[Zenax]

Doesn't really matter how many graphics cards you use to be honest with you. You could have 10 Graphics cards in it and it would not make any difference to the game, but it would push the price up of the console itself, why do you think it is so expensive at the moment??

What really pushes the consoles, are the games developed for it. If the game demands that you use high end graphics cards, more then one etc, then it would be worth it, but not many games making companies do this, so the technology inside them is a waste.

 

[monky91]

Doesn't really matter how many graphics cards you use to be honest with you. You could have 10 Graphics cards in it and it would not make any difference to the game, but it would push the price up of the console itself, why do you think it is so expensive at the moment??

What really pushes the consoles, are the games developed for it. If the game demands that you use high end graphics cards, more then one etc, then it would be worth it, but not many games making companies do this, so the technology inside them is a waste.

SO it maybe quite the same way as Intel is investing Quad-core or even 32 multi cores right?

 

[Zenax]

Probably. If the hardware isn't going to be used by game developers, what is the point in even putting it into the console in the first place??

But it is your choice, if you decide to buy this console, then that is your choice.

 

[IIN Operator]

I don't care if they might be losing money making it. The PS3 still costs way too much. If it costs them $800 or so to make, then they must have put way too much into it. Does it really need a frame rate that is so fast that even somebody with perfect vision can't see it? Are they ever going to utilize all that technology (of course the answer is no; it isn't profitable to make games only for PS3, so all PS3 games will be ported from 360)? Does it need to support a type of Television that nobody has or wants? Honestly, the people who designed the PS3 failed to follow what they learned in school. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

 

[Spartan Erik]

I am sorry to say that I really don't think the PS3 is worth the money that they are selling it for. Even if they decreased the price, and lossed even more mone (highly unlikely) I still wouldn't buy the console.

However, the only reason I think this is that I am a xbox follower, so I am bound to trash the console right?

Well not entirely true. I have tested out the playstation series, and I personally don't like them.

The graphics on them are not the best, and most of the games on the PS2 are also on xbox.

Hopefully, when the price has come down a bit I shall buy a 360.

But that is my oppinion, and you do not have to agree with me.

Regards,
Zenax

Actually, it depends on what aspect you look at it with. In terms of computing, the PS3 is definitely worth it; it's like a mini-supercomputer for only $700 which is quite impressive.. (assuming someone makes a mod / manages to load Linux onto one). But yes, out of all the consoles, it is overpriced. But even so, Sony is still losing $300 per PS3 sold.. it'll take awhile for them to split even.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for 360 prices to go down too.

Plus, Microsoft's game companies > Sony's

 

[Livewire]

Actually, it depends on what aspect you look at it with. In terms of computing, the PS3 is definitely worth it; it's like a mini-supercomputer for only $700 which is quite impressive.. (assuming someone makes a mod / manages to load Linux onto one). But yes, out of all the consoles, it is overpriced. But even so, Sony is still losing $300 per PS3 sold.. it'll take awhile for them to split even.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for 360 prices to go down too.

Plus, Microsoft's game companies > Sony's

You know, I'd be inclined to agree that it's a very powerful PC with one rather large problem: I can't put windows xp sp2 on it and start coding c# assignments for my classes right now. Which makes it pale in comparison to my $300 bargain pc that I managed to get 1gb of ram and an amd sempron in XD

But yes, the ps3 does indeed have the hardware. All that I wanna see is how long it takes before someone actually _uses_ it. It'd be like putting a v12 from a Ferarri 250TR Spyder in my '95 geo tracker. The power is there. And it drives the cost up. But can you really use all that power?

With the ps3 you could. Just not right now. Too new for anyone to know what to do with what they're given - it's no different than when the DS first came out. I had mario kart and acww. ACWW relied on the touch screen, mario kart used it for a map. Both pale in comparison to Trauma Center when you're stitching a new valve into a childs heart, but it took TIME for someone to come up with the idea in the first place. New hardware means new possibilities, but someone still has to think of it.

It's alot easier to say "lets put 7 cores on the cpu" than it is to say "lets USE all 7 we put on the cpu," just like it was easier to say "lets put 2 screens on this, but make one touch sensative" than it was to say "lets come up with a new and unique way to use both screens."


Oh, and I'd stop thinking about the future with the ps3 for right now. They got their hands full with the botched backwards compatability, apparent hdtv woes, and some isolated overheating incidents. Cite the source:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746492p1.html
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745439p1.html

I think I'll stick with ePSXe for now - even that isn't perfect, but at least I'm going into it knowing it's gunna glitch out on graphics and sound here and there. The ps3 was supposed to do it right from v1. And it ain't.


(now dangit, why did this turn into a "yea it's got power but whens it gunna get used" deal? It was supposed to be a "yea the ps3's got power but theres not much else going for it right now" thing )

 

[Zenax]

In my oppinion the console aint even worth the bother.

 

[MicrotechXP]

The PS3 is worth it and it is the best!

 

[Cubeform]

First off, remember the XBox? Microsoft loses money on every console made. They're hoping to recuperate by using XBox live. I'm not sure about the 360, but I presume it's the same.

Also, since the PS3's processor is optimised for games, I'm not sure if it would be good for general-purpose computing, though.

 

[Goran]

Future will show!!! In future they don't need to make upgrade like eny of pc which you must get a lot of euro for one pc that will run a new game solid or superb but price of that pc will be about 1000 euro and more!

 

[unpixelatedgamers]

First off, remember the XBox? Microsoft loses money on every console made. They're hoping to recuperate by using XBox live. I'm not sure about the 360, but I presume it's the same.

At launch, they were losing $125 on each console made, even before before shipping/packaging was included. Not to mention their huge development cost. according to some sources they've actually managed reduce the manufactuing cost a lot over the last year. MS have yet to confirm it though.

Also, since the PS3's processor is optimised for games, I'm not sure if it would be good for general-purpose computing, though.

The ps3 is CRAP as a general purpose processor. They only have 1 general purpose core in the thing, and even that is hugely stripped down from what you would find in a normal PC. A low end Core 2 duo (two cores as opposed to cell's 7) would trounce it in every single way running a program that wasn't specifically built for the system.

 

[Derek]

I dont think so because there too high of a price and noone buys them as much as the wii and the 360

 

[apple19]

What Ive heard is the DVD player is high def and its the cd player is like excellent quality. Personally I dont like SONY for gaming, and even though I hate Microsoft and Billy Gates, I still love Xbox, but apparently he had nothing to do with the construction of it or something....Me no know???