Stem Cell Research

[TST Admin]

What is your opinion on using stem cell research to cure diseases in already living people. The controversy is, that it involves 'killing' an embryo which could eventually grow into a human.

I'm undecided about this issue, because it involves humans dieing either way. :frown:

If you don't know much about the topic, some more info can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_research

 

[Spartan Erik]

Lol, I believe stem cell research SHOULD be done.. the human body generates embryos, of which one or two may actually be turned into a human.. the rest are discarded BY THE BODY! Why not make use of the ones that the body does not want, and help millions of people?

This country is so caught up in religion, we are losing the scientific race; every single country besides the U.S. has put MAJOR funding into stem cell research. In China they used stem cells to regrow heart tissue to save patients, in Germany they used stem cells and recreated a functional human jaw and surgically attached it to a person who had lost their jaw from flesh eating bacteria. In fact the jaw worked so well that when the patient recovered, the first thing he did was he went to a restaurant to eat a sausage sandwich, since he previously could only intake liquified foods.

It's too bad that religious zealots control our country. If it gets any worse, it will be just like those backward-thinking theocracies in the middle east..

 

[Micro]

I feel quite strongly about this but i have to go lift some slabs for my mum.
I think that the rise in heart disease and other illnesses need stem cell research and usage to grow organs, skin, etc. A person can get a new lease of life from an embryo, and they are discarded, as Spartan erik said, by the body.

I think it needs to be done!

 

[Cubeform]

In the US, where the government is ruled by right-wing fundamentalists, they are simply too blind to consider stem cell research.

Let's see here, according to Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_treatments and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_research#Key_events_in_stem_cell_research):

Your president, George W. Bush, vetoed a bill that would have allowed federal money to be used in stem cell research. By doing this, he just gave up the opportunity to cure:

• Cancer
• Blindness
• Muscle damage
• Heart damage
• Spinal cord injuries
• Low blood supply
• Baldness
• Missing teeth
• Deafness
• Blindness

So, the US government are trying to stop a future society where cancer can be treated immediately, no one is blind, no one is paralyzed, no one is bald, where blindness and deafness are a thing of the past.

Great job.

(By the way: I don't live in the US)

 

[Micro]

(By the way: I don't live in the US)

Hehe, closer than me though

Both my grandfathers and one grandmother died of cancer (Related to Smoking)... Just think that in the future we would not have the problems of death :S thats the only thing that is going to bug me, we will most probably not die...

 

[Rufio1]

In the US, where the government is ruled by right-wing fundamentalists, they are simply too blind to consider stem cell research.

Let's see here, according to Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_treatments and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_research#Key_events_in_stem_cell_research):

Your president, George W. Bush, vetoed a bill that would have allowed federal money to be used in stem cell research. By doing this, he just gave up the opportunity to cure:

• Cancer
• Blindness
• Muscle damage
• Heart damage
• Spinal cord injuries
• Low blood supply
• Baldness
• Missing teeth
• Deafness
• Blindness

So, the US government are trying to stop a future society where cancer can be treated immediately, no one is blind, no one is paralyzed, no one is bald, where blindness and deafness are a thing of the past.

Great job.

(By the way: I don't live in the US)

couldnt have said it any better. people need to understand that by allowing scientist do research on stem cells we save millions of people. Sacraficing a few embros for research that could help on a global scale is a sacrafice we should be willing to make. They should hire people just to "breed" and then take the embro from them. Of corse the ****ing president has to be religious and veto the bill. Also scientist that are working on stem cell research have one of the highest pay checks.

 

[Spartan Erik]

couldnt have said it any better. people need to understand that by allowing scientist do research on stem cells we save millions of people. Sacraficing a few embros for research that could help on a global scale is a sacrafice we should be willing to make. They should hire people just to "breed" and then take the embro from them. Of corse the ****ing president has to be religious and veto the bill. Also scientist that are working on stem cell research have one of the highest pay checks.

I don't believe the president himself is that stupid.. he's only dumbing it down to earn the evangelical Christian vote.. which, unfortunately, dominates U.S. politics. It's too bad we can't have candidates on both sides who want whats best for the country, not what's best in favor of a certain group

 

[Futeki]

I don't know about others on exactly why they're against it, but I can tell you why I am. I just feel that it's wrong in doing this, as you're killing what would and are human beings. Just because they're classified as otherwise scientifically doesn't make them less of a human being. I guess the real question is at what stage do you find an embryo to be a human being?

It's the same thing with cloning people to me, it just feels wrong, it feels like playing some sort of God, creating and ending life at a whim. My beliefs are that of my own, it has nothing to do with my religion, as I don't go to church, nor do I highly support any current religion. I'm not affiliated with any political party, nor do I wish to be, as I feel the government is corrupted with money and has no real voice of their own anymore. Believe me, I'm all for curing cancer, AIDs, and/or any disease out there that has yet to be cured by current medicine, but I just don't feel that stem cell research is the right path in doing so.

I'm sure I'm going to be called crazy now, or LOL'd at, but these are my own personal beliefs, and are not affiliated with anyone else.

 

[Node1]

This should be allowed 100%, and should be monitored, if that doesnt satisfy you, then I think Stem Cell Research should be operated by the Government, so that the Government can monitor and not allow illegal activities. You cannot stop progress!

 

[dharmil]

This should be allowed 100%, and should be monitored, if that doesnt satisfy you, then I think Stem Cell Research should be operated by the Government, so that the Government can monitor and not allow illegal activities. You cannot stop progress!

yeah you cant stop progress

 

[Futeki]

This should be allowed 100%, and should be monitored, if that doesnt satisfy you, then I think Stem Cell Research should be operated by the Government, so that the Government can monitor and not allow illegal activities. You cannot stop progress!

Even if the government watched over it, I still feel that it would lead to some sort of slippery slope to creating a perfect race or some sort of abuse in the end.

 

[jvp856]

What is your opinion on using stem cell research to cure diseases in already living people. The controversy is, that it involves 'killing' an embryo which could eventually grow into a human.

I'm undecided about this issue, because it involves humans dieing either way. :frown:

If you don't know much about the topic, some more info can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_research

If you would be more interested in science then in religion, you would know that you don't have to 'kill' an embryo, because it can be obtained from the navel-string, it's in the blood. (anyone said blood, ow no:eek4
When you make an embryo in a lab (dutch: in vitro-fertilisatie; English: ??in vitro fertillisation??) there are created more then one embryo, so they would 'kill' at least one embryo per baby too, almost starting to cry?

'Killing' an embryo is not a crime, if you want to turn it into one, there should at least be a law that makes killing a dog, a cat, a mouse, a fish, the cow you've eaten at lunchtime, your moms flowers,...
Ow no, don't kill the cow, noooooooooooooooo :eek4:, take the embryo :biggrin:

If you still think it's a crime: Letting someone die when you can prevent him/her from dieing is a crime!

btw: God didn't create the world, what some schools teach you is wrong, they prefer religion to science, the fools..:nuts:

 

[jvp856]

Even if the government watched over it, I still feel that it would lead to some sort of slippery slope to creating a perfect race or some sort of abuse in the end.

Don't worry be happy!
BTW: Bush managed to take down the WTC buildings and kill thousands of people, so if they would want to create the perfect race, they would already have about 1 million president Bushes (50$ each, get yours now!):thefinger

 

[Spartan Erik]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_sc/stem_cells_1

There's an article that should please some of you anti-stem cell people; this will open up your mind

 

[jvp856]

Nice article

But this is bull****:
... President Bush and others have argued that the promise of stem cells should not be realized at the expense of human life, even in its most nascent stages.

They say it's wrong to 'kill' evenly an embryo, but killing (execution) criminals is not a crime evenif they are human beings aswell. :nuts:
(What about embryos who would develop into criminals?) :biggrin:

(sorry for my poor English)

 

[Futeki]

Don't worry be happy!
BTW: Bush managed to take down the WTC buildings and kill thousands of people, so if they would want to create the perfect race, they would already have about 1 million president Bushes (50$ each, get yours now!):thefinger

Oh, I'm very happy.

I'm not even going to comment on such a theory of Bush.

 

[jvp856]

Oh, I'm very happy.

I'm not even going to comment on such a theory of Bush.

You just did :biggrin:

 

[Cubeform]

(What about embryos who would develop into criminals?) :biggrin:

That reminds me of a movie where a group of people who could see into the future and would catch criminals before they even commited a single crime...

Who knows what's actually happening inside the White House anyway? Hopefully the 2008 election will result in a leader who will approve of stem cell research.

 

[Spartan Erik]

That reminds me of a movie where a group of people who could see into the future and would catch criminals before they even commited a single crime...

Who knows what's actually happening inside the White House anyway? Hopefully the 2008 election will result in a leader who will approve of stem cell research.

Minority Report, I assume?

 

[jvp856]

That reminds me of a movie where a group of people who could see into the future and would catch criminals before they even commited a single crime...

Who knows what's actually happening inside the White House anyway? Hopefully the 2008 election will result in a leader who will approve of stem cell research.

Not ordinary criminals, murderers. Nice movie.