The US should pull out of Iraq

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What do you think? Personally I think that too many soldiers and people have been killed to pull out now. If they are going to commit, they need to commit fully.
 

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I certainly in the 50 50 about the pullout.. I think it would be great and i think it would not but certainly they should pull out of IRAQ and see what happens if things are better they never go back if things turn out worse they go back in...
 
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I was against the war against iraq from the start. Thing is that iraq is now somewhat dependant on usa... hard question with a harder answer. If USA moves out and gives iraq true freedom it might be a big mistake, any power-hungry leader could rally forces and take over. I don't pretend to know much about the situation but I think that USA should stay, but that other countries should get involved too so that IRAQ isn't dependant on only USA.
 

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Conor said:
What do you think? Personally I think that too many soldiers and people have been killed to pull out now. If they are going to commit, they need to commit fully.
I agree with you 100 percent Conor. If they come out now, that would be like they just killed thousands of soldiers for nothing.
 

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Actually I would say, just nuke the dang place. :/ It's useless to keep talking about it since you guys can't do anything against it. It's only 1 man that can do what he want with Iraq and that's Bush. If he really wanted to destroy Iraq, he would already done that.
 

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ademonicbaby said:
Actually I would say, just nuke the dang place. :/ It's useless to keep talking about it since you guys can't do anything against it. It's only 1 man that can do what he want with Iraq and that's Bush. If he really wanted to destroy Iraq, he would already done that.

I WAS JUST THINKING THAT! I think bush should just nuke the entire country! That way theres no more talk and whining and bickering and it would be better for the enviroment because all the oil would be gone in iraq so bush would have to start thinking of other sources of energy!
 

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Yeah I also agree with you 100%. We should get out of there but now that we are in there they depend on us which is really bad....
 

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The problem with the war is, of course, that insurgency is not an organization, or any sort of group that you can destroy. People can grow to be insurgents, and we've, in my opinion, caused nothing but more to grow in Iraq. If we pull out, then there will be thousands of deaths for nothing if the government collapses, and if we stay, thousands more could die, and there is no guarantee how long the government will stay up then, anyways.


I believe we were brought there under the assumption of Weapons of Mass Destruction, not freeing a tyranical country. I don't believe the public would have been near as supportive if the case was the latter.
 

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well i think the motivations were wrong. it was really all about oil etc.

but undecided on pull-out. needs to be a un sanctioned effort if they stay.
 

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NO way. I don't think it was about oil AT ALL. You don't kill thousands for OIL. DON'T YOU REMEMBER 9/11?
 

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komodolinux, what exactly do you mean by "there was more to 9/11 than meets the eye." ?

Yes It was a terrible act of terrorism but I think that Bush's Iraq campaign wasn't based solely on the 9/11 attack nor greed of oil. I think that there were numerous factors contibuting to his decision and a lot of pressure was put upon him.

I respect him for the fact that he keeps America strong, I do not respect him for the ways in which he does it, nor for the amount of people he tramples upon to get where he wants to be.

Once again I say that both withdrawing from the Iraq campaign and continuing with it will have it's own dangers and rewards, It's up to the world to pressure George into making the right decision.
 

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wonko, you prove my point exactly.

9/11 wasnt just a case of people saying lets make an example.

they obviously perceive america as an enemy and the reasons go deeper than just 1 day in history.

and of course bush would be in the pockets of oil lobbyists to some degree. how else but through lobbyists do the politicians get major contributions?

plus, look back to bush snr and kuwait. can you truly say he would have intervened there if kuwait had no oil?
 

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Conor said:
NO way. I don't think it was about oil AT ALL. You don't kill thousands for OIL. DON'T YOU REMEMBER 9/11?

What in the world does Iraq have to do with 9/11? That was Al-Qaeda, not Iraq. They are two completely seperate entities, and two seperate wars. The War in Iraq is not the War on Terror.
 

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I think we shouldn't have to pull-out. Why? Because we shouldn't have been there in the first place. I do agree that some things Sadam Huesein did were wrong. However, if I remember correctly, we found no weapons of mass destruction. So, yes we should pull-out. But, we won't for a while, that is the US's fault, because we elected Bush, now we have to deal with our bad decisions.
 

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U.S knew that there weren't any weapons of destruction, when Bush came here (In the netherlands) he said it himself. Bush just needed a reason to blow it up. And I say again. Just nuke it and just forget about it.
 

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wonkothesane said:
I was against the war against iraq from the start. Thing is that iraq is now somewhat dependant on usa... hard question with a harder answer. If USA moves out and gives iraq true freedom it might be a big mistake, any power-hungry leader could rally forces and take over. I don't pretend to know much about the situation but I think that USA should stay, but that other countries should get involved too so that IRAQ isn't dependant on only USA.
That's the true answer i believe. İf US falls back, there'll be chaos in Iraq, but if stays....

My opinion is: US must pull some of it's forces, and NATO must place a peace-provider unit from multiple nations armies. After Iraq really calms down, every soldier must leave the country.
 

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ademonicbaby said:
U.S knew that there weren't any weapons of destruction, when Bush came here (In the netherlands) he said it himself. Bush just needed a reason to blow it up. And I say again. Just nuke it and just forget about it.
What da hell are u talkin about!" Just nuke it, and forget about" What about that, place a nuke on YOUR head, and press te trigger, huh?
 

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Burak, I don't think his head contains any insurgents.

How do you destroy an enemy that is one of you, has no uniform, swears no allegiance, and will die without falter for his cause?
 
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