War or No War: Should we back out?

[Zdroyd]

The War Against Terror / The War in Iraq

Should we stay in the War againt Terror?
Is it a waist of Time and money?
Will Third World Countries ever stop fighting?
Is this war nothing but the effect of world war 2?
Will it ever end?

I will post my opinion after others post.

 

[zynischen]

no
yes
no
nope
no

 

[HomerJ]

The war in Iraq is a monumental waste of billions of the taxpayers' dollars. It also has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.

 

[Zdroyd]

The war in Iraq is a monumental waste of billions of the taxpayers' dollars. It also has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.

LOL good point, and I meant the War in Iraq and the War Against Terror.

I find that both are a waist of our time and money (And by the looks of it, our Troops). The middle East has had problems ever since WW2 and they will continue to fight each other until the end of time. Mainly because that is how their religion depicts it.

But I also view it to be our fault (The Allies) because we unevenly split there country after WW2. But thats not as bad as killing millions of innocent people.

To the point: The War should be ended. We (USA) need to use the money that is used for the war for other things. Mainly our economy, because it seems everyone here (MI) is struggling. (I suppose that other things waist our needed money, like NASA, LOL)

Edit: Wow this topic is a lot more onesided then I expected, where are the Fundamentalists? LOL

 

[TechAsh]

I think that yes, we should back-out because it's costing an awful lot of money. But also some people could say we have done some good (whether this is outweighed by the amount of damage we've done is another matter).

A lot of the problems are caused by conflicting religions, but there nothing anyone can do about that.

 

[BentFX]

I vote no. Was the war waged in error, possibly, yet we are committed. Obama claims we have to pull out and reclaim our good name in the world. The two things don't go together. If we back out it only places the US in the role of loose super cannon. The buffoon from Texas didn't trick us. Saddam was a self proclaimed enemy of the US, and in obstinate violation of a dozen UN resolutions. He was removed from power, and hung till dead. We can't just say 'oops, our bad!', and walk away.

Saddam was a tyrant thug, but he was an important tyrant thug. He maintained balance and a rule of law in an area where there are no other unifying factors. Finally, after five years, we have found a strategy which holds down the violence. We have to stick it out and give the Iraqi people a chance to pick up the pieces, and provide for their common defense.

Iran is chomping at the bit to take control, and guaranteed it would be as brutal as Saddam ever was. Iran already has a huge slice of global oil reserves. Were they to take over Iraqi reserves they would be a super power, a super power dedicated to fighting the west.

Save the kumbaya's there are real problems in the mideast, and singing 'give peace a chance' doesn't solve anything. We walked in there claiming freedom for the people of Iraq, we deposed their despot and gave them elections. We can't throw them to the wolves now. The truth is... They are thankful we've done what we have. They certainly hated Saddam more than we hate George W. Do they want us there? No. Do they want us to leave now? No! They are Iraqis and being Iraqi is about the only unifying force they have, and it seems that that single unifying force is the strongest in the region. They are proud to be Iraqi. It would be asinine to not follow through when we have come this far.

Speaking of asinine( no thats a different post )

 

[Twinkie]

It is a waste of time and money. BentFX has a point, and we should not back out so quickly, but a slower but definite recall is the best course of action. It would not make us see like a loose cannon because we were attacked first. The only reason we are still there is for oil, and that is morally wrong. I most people simply forgot about the war. I vote that we should end the war against terror.

 

[Spartan Erik]

No we should not back out. It is a waste of time, money, and lives, but seeing as how we're already there we might as well do a good job (and not let it end up like Vietnam).

Our original intention was to take out Saddam and his WMDs. Although the WMDs weren't found, Saddam's General of the Air Force admitted that Saddam DID have WMDs, and that they were shipped off to Syria and Iran prior to our invasion (obviously not the safest places to possess WMDs either).

Seeing as how we are there we might as well build up their infrastructure to ensure an economy for them and oil for us. Face it our economy is based on oil and we need it! India and China are growing, and meanwhile OPEC is controlling the oil prices (not the oil companies like so many people are quick to blame).

I figure the only reason I'm going to vote for McCain now is to prevent Hillary or Obama from pulling the troops out; if we do leave the terrorists will have a perfect atmosphere to build up. The troop surge is evidently working, and I imagine a few more years will bring even greater stability.

Additionally, the war on terror isn't only the war in Iraq. We still have an ongoing war in Afghanistan, and just recently China executed several terrorists attempting to attack the Beijing Olympics. The war on terror will be an ongoing war, but the war in Iraq specifically should only take a little while longer. For those who suggest peace and diplomacy, it's evident that they don't work. Make war to make peace!

 

[HomerJ]

LOL good point, and I meant the War in Iraq and the War Against Terror.

I find that both are a waist of our time and money (And by the looks of it, our Troops). The middle East has had problems ever since WW2 and they will continue to fight each other until the end of time. Mainly because that is how their religion depicts it.

But I also view it to be our fault (The Allies) because we unevenly split there country after WW2. But thats not as bad as killing millions of innocent people.

To the point: The War should be ended. We (USA) need to use the money that is used for the war for other things. Mainly our economy, because it seems everyone here (MI) is struggling. (I suppose that other things waist our needed money, like NASA, LOL)

Edit: Wow this topic is a lot more onesided then I expected, where are the Fundamentalists? LOL

I agree, the War on Terror should end too, I was just pointing out that Iraq has little to do with it.

 

[FalseHope]

The only reason there is a war in Iraq is because bushy boy wants the oil. Plus, I thought they were getting out of there?

 

[Staind1982]

This is such a touchy topic to some (especially the neo-hippies, ), but we have made a commitment to help and that is what we must do. Sure we have made some mistakes in this but war is not cut and dry. We went in with full support of the President and Congress, so the blame doesn't lie on the head of Bush alone. But to answer the questions posed:

Should we stay in the War againt Terror? Absolutely, except we may need to turn our efforts to domestic terrorism. The reason being is that these neo-hippie, tree huggin, anti-war yuppies are starting to bomb recruiting stations, set houses and cars on fire, all in the name of "crazy."

Is it a waist of Time and money? Well that depends. Yes in some ways it is a complete waste of time and money but in some ways it may ultimately save some in the future. It is hard to tell what the full result of this but given the economy it sure does appear to be a waste.

Will Third World Countries ever stop fighting? Simply, absolutely not.

Is this war nothing but the effect of world war 2? No, there were hundreds of wars prior to WWII, many more significant. WWII (besides the Civil War or American Revolution) was the most significant to the United States. We look back to this war only because it occurred during "our time," and due to the cause (terrorism). War then, like now, is tied to religion or religious like groups (Nazis). Today we have religious zealots that are bringing about more terror than ever before and given how our nation is attempting to cater to everyones needs and wants, we will always have something to spark wars.

Will it ever end? No, war is something that will never cease. We will go through times of peace and times of war like the rest of history. War will be the say all end all.

Should we back out of the war? Back out? No. Reduce our presence and force the Iraqi government to step up? Yes. We should always have a show of force abroad.

 

[Zdroyd]

I have a good friend over there and I do not want any more violence.

The groups that are fighting need to stop. We need to stop shooting and start signing treaties and pacts. That is the only way to stop this war. Sending in troops and weapons will only continue the war.

My friend signed up with the military because he was in a bad situation economically. He was told that the military would help him greatly, so he joined. And joining was a big mistake on his part. He was told that there is was a small chance that he would actually go to war, but look where he is now. Coinsedense, I think not!

 

[otherside]

Honestly I don't think we should back out now, since we've already done so much damage to ourselves and others it would be careless to back out at this point. If we could completely integrate to an alternative fuel source it would greatly reduce terrorism though, I mean we are funding our side and their side of the war. Part of the problem to is that we tried to stick democracy on them, which will not work. Democracy assumes that the people under it have the core values that suit it. They would be much better off with something more suiting them (anything would be better then a dictatorship anyway).
-kilon828

 

[sunils]

Why you should wage a war, It will only destroy our brothers and sisters there and not the enemies. So its better not to kill our brothers and sisters.

 

[Spartan Erik]

Zdryod, do you honestly think terrorists are willing to negotiate? Who would you sign the treaty with? The Iraqi government doesn't have any power over the terrorists, as all extremists will try to do anything to destroy western culture as it is. And the military does offer some pretty nice benefits.. serve your time and you get college paid for! Not to mention when you retire you get a military pension..

Only way to get peace is to make war

 

[Zdroyd]

LOL that is the point... Like I said in my first post > War on Terror is an endless war. It can never end.








































Unless we use nukes.

 

[HomerJ]

LOL that is the point... Like I said in my first post > War on Terror is an endless war. It can never end.

Unless we use nukes.

Even then, there will still be terrorists. In fact, they will probably be even angrier and more violent.

 

[FalseHope]

There will always be terrorists. No matter what you do, they will always be there.

 

[Zdroyd]

^ Very true...

And that is why I think we should not try to go out and get them... We should stay home and protect our country and stop them when they come, not before/after.