cept you need alot more knolage in vb6 to use vbgore.
i forgot about that, but when i was active(half a year ago) it was actually mmo quality.
me and spodi(owner of vgbore) argue alot though.
and to my knolage, this is how the ownershop went:
Started with Coke(now Fox, who is banned from the forums i think) with GSD as a programer.
Then Coke gave konfuze to GSD who changed the name to Elysium Engine, and continued to work on it. Pingu joined in sometime and GSD left.
Pingu worked on it a while, and around this time sevral branchs split off(Elysium Blue, Eclipse, Green Tail) which were all basicly modifations to Elusium Bugged/Debugged and my opnion were not good.
Pingu made another release, Elsyium Engine 2.0
Then he left, sort of taking Elysium Engine with him, but some Forum members created a new community now known as Elysium Source
Currently a good member, Gaikan(think thats it), has mage huge optimizations and stuff to the code and is now relesed as Elysium Engine 3.x
so all in all, these are offical versons in order
Konfuze Chrismas Edition(think)
Konfuze Milstone(lot of people think this is the best one)
Konfuze/Elysium Bugged(lots of new features, bery buggy
Elsyium Debuged (lots of errors removed)
Elysium Debuged 2(even more and more features)
Elysium Engine 2 (not sure)
Elysium Engine 3 (even more bugs removed and features added)
But im half asleep, so i mag of gotten something wrong.
I have like 6 gigs of files of mirage source engines/games/other stuff on my harddrive, but still missing some key ones.