Ipod Touch WIFI and Firmware 3.0

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Has anybody been having a problem with their ipod touch/iphone connecting to WIFI since the ver. 3.0 firmware upgrade?

I have been having major issues and after searching the net, I have found a lot of people that have the same problem as me sinch the upgrade...

what about you?
 

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ichwar is the member to ask about this.

He hasn't stopped talking about his Touch since he got it a couple of months ago! :)
 

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I'm running 3.0.something on my iTouch 1G and I couldn't ask for better internet. Of course, it's jailbroken, so that might have something to do with it.
 

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well, I have wifi in my house, it's G.... before the upgrade I used to have full signal even downstairs and on the back balcony....

after the upgrade I lost the signal on the back balcony.... after doing much research (and changing the router to every channel) I found that the bug is with G and not B, so when I switched my router to B, I got full signal in the back, but I didn't want all the laptops in the house connecting to by B because B only connects at 11m where G connects a 54m...

So what did I do? I searched my closet and found another wifi router I had.... I set that up as an all-points and I have it broadcasting by B while my main router broadcast by G

I only let my touch connect to the B network (using channel 1)while all the laptops in the house connect to the G network (using channel 11).

Now I have full signal every where....

Can't wait for the 3.1 firmware update (now in beta testing)

Anybody else have any other tricks?

Thanks
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I'm running 3.0.something on my iTouch 1G and I couldn't ask for better internet. Of course, it's jailbroken, so that might have something to do with it.

Mine is not jail broken, I'm scared to do it as it's pretty new... firmware 3.0 finally gives you copy / paste, ver. 3.1 is supposed to allow you to rearrange you touch icons in itunes and hopefully fix the wifi bugs...
 
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Ok, we have a wireless-N router, so that would explain why I'm not experiencing any troubles.

You don't have to be afraid of jailbreaking your iTouch though. It literally opens up a whole new world of capabilities and you can always reset your iTouch to factory condition at any time from iTunes.
 

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Ok, we have a wireless-N router, so that would explain why I'm not experiencing any troubles.

You don't have to be afraid of jailbreaking your iTouch though. It literally opens up a whole new world of capabilities and you can always reset your iTouch to factory condition at any time from iTunes.

How fast is N, I heard it's like 100m and it uses 5 MHz and not 2 MHz like B & G

Also, Jail Breaking... I have heard horror stories if the Ipod not turning on after jail-breaking, I also heard that it violates the warranty.

Also, what happens to a legitimate apps that I have, do I loose them, will I be able to download them again with itunes?

I have an Ipod Touch 2G and it's only a few months old, the only thing that was missing was copy / paste, but now I have it...
 
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I don't know how fast N is capable of getting, but I do know that with G, my cap was about about 300kbs. Now with N, I always get a stead 600kbs which is the max speed Embarq gives us. It supposedly can get 12x the speed of G though.
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When you jailbreak your iPod or iPhone, all your current settings and apps stay just the way they are. The only thing that jailbreaking does is add an app called Cydia to your device. Cydia is like the appstore only it gets its apps from online repositories so you can then install any app you want on your device, instead of being limited to what Apple chooses to put in the appstore.
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Oh, and yes, jailbreaking does void the apple warranty, but get yourself a squaretrade warranty, they're much better anyways.
 
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Wireless N at the moment which is finally out of Draft stage is capable of 300Mbps of transfer. You're more likely to get that speed on the 5Ghz frequencies (with less range on it as higher frequencies = shorter distance but more bandwidth) than the 2.4Ghz because of noise and of course, due to limitations of the technology itself. At the moment I'm running Wireless N and Gigabit over my network. I retired my old Linksys WRT54GX a few months ago. Here, I can get some pretty decent speeds off of the Wireless N Access Point and my gigabit switches hooked up to a Pentium III Linux router I set up. Now, once I upgrade the NICs of every PC on the network and change a few settings in my Gigabit switch and in the Linux router, I can start using Jumbo Frames to lessen CPU loads on the slower PCs/the switch and router. At the moment though, all I have is a 7.1Mbps DSL connection. It's got enough over provisioning on it to peak out at 1MB/s download, and the messed up upload provisioning of 188KB/s upload so even regular Wireless G/100Mbps Full Duplex Ethernet would work out. When Fiber optic internet comes here on the other hand...

Also take note, that as connections get faster, you'll get more overhead on the connection. Jumbo frames do help to reduce overhead thanks to a larger MTU (which means less overhead getting stuck to actual packets). That's why on a 54Mbps wireless connection, you'll most likely under the best conditions peak out at 28Mbps sustained transfer. With a 300Mbps Wireless N connection, you'll peak out at roughly 180Mbps in most conditions.

Otherwise, the iPod Touch Gen 2 I have here is running the 3.0 Firmware. It has no problems maintaining the connection to my network (not jailbroken at the moment). The only time it disconnects is of course when I'm several houses away from my home, or the iPod is switched off/in a power saving mode.
 
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hmmmmmmmm......... so that makes me want to upgrade everything to N...

Thanks for the info !
 

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hmmmmmmmm......... so that makes me want to upgrade everything to N...

Thanks for the info !

Yeah, if you can afford it, go for it! It's well worth it. I'm not being dramatic when I say that all my wifi woes went away after we upgraded to N.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the iPod 2G is cabable of using the full N capacity.
 

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Yeah, if you can afford it, go for it! It's well worth it. I'm not being dramatic when I say that all my wifi woes went away after we upgraded to N.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the iPod 2G is cabable of using the full N capacity.

The iPod Touch, no matter what generation it has only supports Wireless G. That's all it really needs, as it's trying to save battery power (which is why it runs at a reduced wireless speed) and it'd have no use for that raw speed anyways. My iPod Gen 2 is using Wireless G compatibility mode on my router (the second radio on it). When it comes down to it though, the newer iPods are supposed to be getting Wireless N from what I've heard. Whether or not that is in the current latest generations of iPod Touch/iPhones, I don't know. I do know that the iPhone 4G LTE edition is supposed to be getting Wireless N on it.
 
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