Is Democracy Really Worth it?

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Someone in my school came around and asked me to register to vote.

My reply: my vote is not going to count; all that I get out of registering to vote is seeing the Electoral College mess around with the state votes (as in previous elections that have made Bush win). Oh, and there's Jury Duty.
 

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Someone in my school came around and asked me to register to vote.

My reply: my vote is not going to count
Sorry you feel that way. You know, there is more to vote for than just the president.;) I saw a speech earlier this year that there were many incidents where elections came down to 1 or 2 votes, and one case where there was a tie, so the winner was decided by drawing a name out of a hat.

The best way to be sure your vote won't count is to not vote.

I do agree with one thing though, the electoral college needs to be changed. If they aren't going to base it on popular vote, why not go by districts instead of states? Each district would be worth 1 point, the candidate with the most points wins.
 

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Actually if you are talking about the United States, you would be meaning a Constitutional Democracy since they do not always need a constitution or bill of rights to limit governmental power as in theory the people have absolute power to decide what they want as a majority. The US does not meet the criteria of a Democracy since the people do not exercise much control at all, over what laws, politics, and direction this country is taking. The founding fathers looked at previous governments and did the best job they could creating a Constitutional Republic and electoral college because as they said in the Federalist Papers a pure Democracy cannot work.

The United States is closer to a plutocracy since powerful groups and powerful corporations manipulate policy decisions to their favor. We can vote whomever we want in but as it go’s the people pay poorly and the corporations pay much, MUCH better. It is not so hard to get a job at these companies with a comfortable salary after helping them out so many times too.

The Constitution is a document, an agreement that lays out the framework for living in a society where people have protections from historically dangerous and damaging government, which always arises when people rise into positions of power. The Constitution guarantees nothing so it is up to the people to decide how we live. Apparently, everyone is willing to give up their liberty for false security and anyone willing to do that deserves neither. In addition, as anyone who has heard Ron Paul speak knows the Founding Fathers were not interested in being the Imperial conquerors of foreign nations we have become.

I always like to see people talk about changing the constitution and doing away with the “old” stuff when we do not even follow the “old” plans anymore. There is a simple explanation; the country’s intelligence level is declining and stupid people are incapable of defending their freedom. Try this on for size: “A democracy where all the people are too ignorant to understand that they are not living in a democracy and are actually slaves with government granted privileges providing the illusion of freedom”.

So in closing, no Democracy constitutional or not is worth even the paper that the people’s opinions are written on, in my opinion of course. ;)
 
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i think there is no true democracy and it can only acheived by giving true judiciary powers to courts and treating all alike in the court of law
and there should be a law that
every ruling party should sign that they will do atmost 90% of the promised thing and if they could not they should explain the reasons for not acheiving the promosed result
and all this will be judged by the intelluctuals of a organisation not in politics
 
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