suspended for "other" reasons but no real info

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i got a suspension reason code is "5A913B4AAF43"
but your staph only puts in the 1 word reason as "phishing"
i have parody pages is this the problem?
any way
i tryed to start a ticket but the ticket page failed to even start
ironic ?

when i try to search for eather term "phishing" or "5A913B4AAF43"
i get "The answer given for the random question was incorrect."
when it was not at all

and i am not supposed to put ticket requests here

dear x10 hosting staph
please give a compleat reason for the unusual suspensions
not a 1 word reason that will require we waste your time asking more questions

please allow us to search forums without a chatchpa so we do not have to relie on the system to know we are humans since it may fail

please make an oficial ticket forum for any issues we are not needing privacy for
i case the ticket system needs fixing,,,

oh and i did not spell check ,,, have a nice day
 
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jmcgowan

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Also, the captcha goes away after post a certain number of posts. I'm not sure what the magic number is, but I've already reached it and I haven't posted that much at all.

PS - The correct term is staff... staph I believe is how you spell the bacterial infection...
 

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jmcgowan
i typed staph cause i have it! and have had to type it all week
yes i am delirious!:biggrin:

zapzack , i got to
http://support.x10hosting.com/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=submit
and i get a "Registration Required
Unable to submit Ticket; you may need to log in to submit a Ticket. If you are not registered, you can sign up for this Support Desk by click here"

and that gives me "ERROR: You do not have enough permissions to access this page. Please log in by entering your e-mail address and password."

and that ain't working at all

http://www.phishtank.com/ says
Nothing known about http://waptek2.x10hosting.com/index.htm

:dunno:

the site was http://waptek2.x10hosting.com/
 

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I thought you just use your forum username and password for the support desk. See if that logs you in.
 

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found my way into support ticket page
thank you ALL for the help
god i am stupid
 

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i am still waiting to find out what exactly i did wrong
but the conclusion will probibly not concern anyone else
thanks for the help
sorry i cant give reputation or credits because i do not know how to
 

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email i got about phishing suspension

Hi,
You should know more about the suspension than us, as you're the one in charge of uploading files to your hosting account.
Your hosting account has been suspended for "Phishing" as a phishing website was found on your account. This website was about: www.wellsfargo.com
Your account is suspended and pending termination.

Regards,
Federico Lerner
x10Hosting Administrator - Staff Manager
E-Mail/MSN: fedlerner@x10hosting.com
Phone #: 1-888-X10-9668 -> Ext: 705 or #5

Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: ORT-681944
Department: Administration
Priority: Medium
Status: On Hold
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i mirrored my website after your last outage so
this is the content you company blanked me for

http://waptek.white.prohosting.com/fargo.htm
http://wap-tek.cwahi.net/fargo.htm
http://wap-tek.bravehost.com/fargo.htm
http://wap-tek.fateback.com/fargo.htm

you said
"This website was about: www.wellsfargo.com"
well thanks ,now that you have got to the point,,
you could have saved me and your company all this time
by putting this in to an earlyer response but ok!,, fine!

the "wellsfargo" page you refer to (fargo.htm) was a parody page
compairing them to the 2 bumbling robber / murderers in the movie fargo
& making fun of them overcharging me and alot of other people

if you blank a 200 page site due to a "phishing claim"
for 1 page and you do not tell me which one was the problem
then how am i supposed to fix it ,, http://forums.x10hosting.com/images/smilies/new/happysad.gif
Edit:
" Hi, You should know more about the suspension than us,
as you're the one in charge of uploading files to your hosting account."

the tone of you message was condecending, acusitory, & indicates that

(a) you cannot research 1 page to see if it is a phishing site
since your company blanked the entire site ?
or
(b)if it is visable to you then YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT DO ANY RESEARCH!

"Your account is suspended and pending termination."
due to a page that was NOT A PHISHING PAGE?

so lets review
you cannot bother to tell me exactly why you company did this in the suspension report
you and your coworkers wont or cannot determine IF the complaint was valid
and then one of you sends a snotty email to me
telling me that i should be able to figure out what was wrong
without info because you realy believe that the acused is guilty?
or you are covering up lazyness
oh by the way who requested you blanke my site?,,, the bank?
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RE Posted On: 05 Aug 2009 6:51 AM by waptek
Re:[#PRG-157643]: bull crap!

From: "Syed" To: waptek2 Tuesday, August 4, 2009 7:47 PM
We suspend sites when we receive a notice from the copyright holders and
we make sure the complaints are valid before suspending an account.
You have admitted to holding such a site which makes the case even more valid.
If you are trying to impersonate something,
you will need to read up on the copyright claims and frauds section of their terms.
As of now, your account will remain suspended and is pending termination.

Syed Administrator http://x10hosting.com
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RE Posted On: 05 Aug 2009 6:51 AM
From: waptek2 To: "Syed" wednesday, 2:57 AM 2009/08/05

" notice from the copyright holders " please forward this notice to me i will need it

thank you for conferming that wellsfargo is sensitive to my rants and criticizums and that money talks!

"we make sure the complaints are valid before suspending an account."
realy and what ofending material was it,, and why did your company forget to tell me this IN THE FIRST PLACE

"You have admitted to holding such a site which makes the case even more valid. "

no i told you it was a parody page ,, are you person or an automated bot?
if you looked at the page it started out as a list of local bank locations and then
a rant about them messing up my account , the only stuff on the page that is theirs
is the ad's they dump to screen when you want to see your account

no one in their right mind would ever see this as a wells fargo page

"If you are trying to impersonate something,"
wait stop ,, you said i WAS doing a phishing site not IF ,
is this annother indicator that you are not actualy reading the page info


" you will need to read up on the copyright claims and frauds section of their terms.
As of now, your account will remain suspended and is pending termination."

so let me get this strait you looked at the site, ,,??????? right! ,,,no,,, no you didn't did you
admit it ,, you just blanked it, and ignored any real issue

you know what i think? i think you are lieing!

i think your system flagged this and you have no clue what happened,
you are trying to cover up that you do not have the authority to fix it
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Here, let me explain what they said waptek2. They said that you were suspended because they got a complaint from the copyright holder. This classified as phishing.. Even if it was a parody page, you need approval from the copyright holder before using their images and/or anything else of theirs.. Don't hold a grudge against x10Hosting, because they were just avoiding lawsuits..
 
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They said that you were suspended because they got a complaint from the copyright holder. This classified as phishing.. Even if it was a parody page, you need approval from the copyright holder before using their images and/or anything else of theirs....

Perhaps they should call it copyright infringement rather than phishing. From every definition of phishing I know, what he did was not phishing. Phishing implies criminal intent.
 

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Perhaps they should call it copyright infringement rather than phishing. From every definition of phishing I know, what he did was not phishing. Phishing implies criminal intent.

Even if the reason is wrong, both Copyright Infringement and Phishing carry the same penalty - Suspension pending Termination, files not available to be retrieved.


So the best possible thing that could happen at this point is unsuspension then immediate resuspension for copyright violation, which will still result in the same thing in the end - an erased account.
 

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Even if the reason is wrong, both Copyright Infringement and Phishing carry the same penalty - Suspension pending Termination, files not available to be retrieved.

I was not arguing against suspension.
I was arguing that the formal charge should fit the facts. Then the accused knows exactly what he did wrong. Saying the page was an attempt at phishing did not fit the facts.
 
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I guess it might boil down to what Wells Fargo was alleging as well; if they were alleging phishing and had the evidence to support it, then that's why the charge is what it is.

Kinda depends what Wells Fargo was calling it I guess since it was their copyright in violation anyways.


Edited; accidentally had Wachovia, Brandon reminded me it was Wells Fargo >_<
 
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I guess it might boil down to what Wachovia was alleging as well; if they were alleging phishing and had the evidence to support it, then that's why the charge is what it is.

Kinda depends what Wachovia was calling it I guess since it was their copyright in violation anyways.

Wells Fargo. Were did you get Wachovia?
 

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I left the pc for a while and came back later and just remembered it started with a W >_<


My bad, edited back :)
 

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This user was suspended for Phishing because he uploaded a page that had a 75% match of the wells fargo page. Instead of nicely asking us to review his suspension because he thinks there was an error he instead opened multiple abusive tickets and also made multiple abusive posts on the forums, his other forum account was banned.

I can guarantee you if you open a ticket swearing and demanding stuff you will not get help, I'm not sure why anyone thinks we should take such abuse when we're giving something away for free. We're more than happy to look into any issue including a suspension being wrong if asked politely.

-Corey
 

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I'm not sure why anyone thinks we should take such abuse when we're giving something away for free.

Is it because the user is:
a) a fool;
b) a moron;
c) a twerp;
d) an imbecile;
e) arrogant;
f) any, or a combination of, the above.

Answers on a postcard to the user.
 

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"A soft answer turns away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger." A very wise man once said. So true.
 
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