Unable to send to Hotmail using mail()

[ViperBlade]

Hey there. I'm currently unable to send E-mail to hotmail, however if I send to a mailinator address, it receives. Are there any specific headers I need to send email with?

I'm currently using this function I've hased together myself:

function email($to, $subject, $plain, $html)
	{
	$semi_rand = md5(time());
	$mime_boundary = "==MULTIPART_BOUNDARY_$semi_rand";
	$mime_boundary_header = chr(34) . $mime_boundary . chr(34);

	$from = "turnip@pervhunter.x10.mx";
	$body = "This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--$mime_boundary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

$plain

--$mime_boundary
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

$html

--$mime_boundary--";
	if (@mail($to, $subject, $body, 
	"From: " . $from . "\n" . 
	"Return-Path: " . $from . "\n" .
	"Reply-To: " . $from . "\n" .
	"To: " . $to . "\n" .
	"Sent: " . date("jS F Y, g:i a") . "\n" .
	"Sender: " . "x10hosting.com" . "\n" .
	"X-Priority: 1\n" .
	"X-MSMail-Priority: High\n" .
    "X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "\n" .
	"MIME-Version: 1.0\n" . 
	"Content-Type: multipart/alternative;\n" . 
	"	boundary=" . $mime_boundary_header))
		{
		return true;
		}
	else
		{
		return false;
		}
	}

I used to be able to send to hotmail with an x10hosting account a couple of years ago with the following headers set.

mail($email_address, $subject, $message, "X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "
X-SID-PRA: alerts@pervgallery.co.nr
From: alerts@pervgallery.co.nr
Return-Path: alerts@pervgallery.co.nr")

Has sending to hotmail been taking away now?

Thanks for reading

 

[Livewire]

If memory serves hotmail and yahoo currently have us blacklisted; that wasn't done by choice on our part though. Despite all of our work trying to stop the spammers, they're still getting through occasionally, and since a lot of folks use hotmail and yahoo, they're the first to receive all the spam.

We've already tried contacting them to resolve it; so far no dice

 

[ViperBlade]

First off: Amazing signature, lol

Secondly, does this apply for paid hosting as well?
Oddly enough I Hotmail receives from the webmail client in cpanel, so it being an x10 blacklisting doesn't quite make sense.

 

[descalzo]

The workaround is

1. Set up a Google Apps account for your domain
2. Set your mail settings to Google Apps (following the instructions on Google).
3. Use PHPMailer or similar script to send the mail via SMTP through your Google Apps account.

 

[Livewire]

First off, thanks Gotta love counting my suspensions

Secondly, I'm not sure if it's blocked on paid or not; post the hotmail address you're using for testing and I can send one from my paid account to test though. The weird part is if it's getting it via the webmail client just fine, then why is it blocking it through mail...

In any case descalzo's got the alternative - since gmail isn't blocked by us or by hotmail, you can utilize their email sending system instead

 

[ViperBlade]

Cool, thanks.
My e-mail is <removed for privacy now that test is done>


Edited by Livewire: Removed the email once I did the test so it remains private

 

[Livewire]

Test sent from a test file on my account (not through webmail). Lemme know if it works

 

[ViperBlade]

Yup, came through to the junk e-mail though.

 

[Livewire]

Probably cause I didn't actually use appropriate headers and it did look a bit spammy XD

 

[ViperBlade]

lol. would you mind trying again with my headers?

 

[Livewire]

From'll have to be different cause it's coming from the wrong server, but yeah hang on.

 

[Livewire]

Took a bit cause I had to fill in the message and stuff, but sent. See what happened



Edit: Noticed it didn't send quite right on my end - it used the second batch of code, not the actual function cause I dun have an html page to use XD Lemme know what it did anyways, I can send a third if needbe.

 

[ViperBlade]

Went through to spam.

Perhaps give this one a go

$to = "myemail";
$from = "youremail";
$subject = "test";
$body = "Did <B>this</B> one work?";

mail($to, $subject, $body, 
"From: " . $from . "\n" . 
"Return-Path: " . $from . "\n" .
"Reply-To: " . $from . "\n" .
"To: " . $to . "\n" .
"Sent: " . date("jS F Y, g:i a") . "\n" .
"Sender: " . "x10hosting.com" . "\n" .
"X-Priority: 1\n" .
"X-MSMail-Priority: High\n" .
"X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "\n" .
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n" .
"Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1");

Edit: Thanks for doing this btw.

 

[Livewire]

Reran with new code, and no problem - I'd rather make sure it works -before- having you jump to paid to find out it doesn't XD

My guess though is it might just be binning it not because of headers, but because it -does- look semi spammy. The upshot? If it's binning it, it's not blacklisted. Blacklisted means it doesn't even show up

 

[ViperBlade]

Came through to junk. Never mind though, I appreciate you trying.
I'm going to run the same code on my free hosting and attempt to send to your from address. Let me know if you receive anything.

EDIT: Message sent.

 

[Livewire]

Works, got 4 actually

 

[ViperBlade]

Got 4!? Ah well... Just tried sending one to myself and nothing came through, so I'll go ahead and assume it won't work for free, but will for paid with a few tweaks.

The reason I'm so sure it's a header issue is that when I had hosting here a few years ago, using mail() without adding headers made e-mail go to junk, and adding headers made it go to inbox.

Thanks for all your help livewire.
May as well mark this as closed.

 

[Livewire]

Closing at request; if you need more help, let us know