Questions before start the website

[DarkDragonLord]

Hello everyone!

Been a long time since i was here last time.
Well, since x10 opened hosting again, i'll start doing my own website.

But to be sure i will not be banned in the first day, i would like to make some questions about the ToS.

1.
The tos said about hosting illegal software and stuff. Well, i would like to make a fan site of Ragnarok Online. Since its about a game who have a LOT of 'Private Servers', i would like to say things about them, links to them and forums.

Well, maybe i want to host some eAthena and Aegis files. Those are Emulators of the Official Ragnarok Server. Well, if i host the official ragnarok files, would do AGAINST the tos, so i will not do it.

BUT, the eAthena and Aegis are based on reverse engineering. That is, they are legal. Gravity lost against eAthena, because it didnt copy anything, just used reverse engineering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering
"Reverse engineering (RE) is the process of discovering the technological principles of a device or object or system through an abductive analysis of its structure, function and operation. It often involves taking something (e.g. a mechanical device, an electronic component, a software program) apart and analyzing its workings in detail, usually to try to make a new device or program that does the same thing without copying anything from the original.
In the United States and many other countries, even if an artifact or process is protected by trade secrets, reverse-engineering the artifact or process is often lawful as long as it is obtained legitimately. Patents, on the other hand, need a public disclosure of an invention, and therefore patented items do not necessarily have to be reverse engineered to be studied. One common motivation of reverse engineers is to determine whether a competitor's product contains patent infringements or copyright infringements."

So, since its a legal program to the law, can i host them too? I think yes but nothing better than ask.

2.
The languages that the website have to be are English or French or Spanish. Well, i live in Brazil and always the north american and european people think brazilian portuguese and spanish are the same thing. Ok, they are near (latin based) but not the 'same'.

Well, can i make a portuguese website since its base language is latin, same as spanish?

3.
I am an Internet Radio DJ. I know hosting and linking to mp3 files are prohibited. But, can i link to my radio's website? No downloads, the user can just hear throught WebPlayer or Winamp .pls File (a playlist with radio's IP).
So isnt download, just streaming. Can i add? (Streaming but not using x10hosting bandwidth, using our own server )


4.
I choosed the best offer you offer. Then, i need to add a 486x60 banner at my web site, right? But, its only in the first page/home or have to be in the layout to be on all pages?


I think i talked too much. Well, for now, these are my questions.
But, better ask than make mistakes, dont you think?

Thanks for the answers and good work everyone

Raphael DDL

 

[Cynical]

Ok, let's see:

1) If the company tried to sue over somebody reverse engineering their software, obviously they don't want people doing it. I'm betting against this one.

2) No, the site must absolutely be *primarily* in English, French, or Spanish. Since Portuguese isn't any of these three languages, you can't have it as your primarily language, however you can have a Portuguese copy (for example, if you offer an English version of your site that has the same content as the Portuguese version, that's ok).

3) I'm pretty sure you still can't stream the files. If major sites like Pandora.com aren't allowed to stream more than a certain number of files per day, it means there are definitely copyright problems. I'm not entirely sure about this.

4) Ads absolutely must be on EVERY single page that is accessible by the public, no matter what (unless you pay for ad-free hosting). That is, sections of your site that only you can access (admin panels, etc.) don't need ads, but everything else does, otherwise your account will be suspended.

For questions 1 and 3, best let an administrator give you an answer. Copyright laws are tricky .

 

[DarkDragonLord]

Ok, let's see:

1) If the company tried to sue over somebody reverse engineering their software, obviously they don't want people doing it. I'm betting against this one.

2) No, the site must absolutely be *primarily* in English, French, or Spanish. Since Portuguese isn't any of these three languages, you can't have it as your primarily language, however you can have a Portuguese copy (for example, if you offer an English version of your site that has the same content as the Portuguese version, that's ok).

3) I'm pretty sure you still can't stream the files. If major sites like Pandora.com aren't allowed to stream more than a certain number of files per day, it means there are definitely copyright problems. I'm not entirely sure about this.

4) Ads absolutely must be on EVERY single page that is accessible by the public, no matter what (unless you pay for ad-free hosting). That is, sections of your site that only you can access (admin panels, etc.) don't need ads, but everything else does, otherwise your account will be suspended.

For questions 1 and 3, best let an administrator give you an answer. Copyright laws are tricky .

1> They tried but they lost lol. xDD thats funny. I love the reverse engineering because even if you copied the code but, using other strings and still the program make the same, if someone sue you, you say "i used reverse engineering" and you win lololol.

2> Ok. Well, i think i can handle doing a entire english website. Im brazilian but, if i did not say anything, would you bet i was american? (i think my english is good enought )

3>Hmm.. Thats tricky. Well, our radio is about to make 3years and noone ever complained. Even the biggest Anime event in latin-america (Anime Friends) supported us last year. Well, you can check our website. It have a player on it so you can hear it. But, Dj's speak in portuguese lol. Just think in hearing the music hahah. www.radioanimix.com.br (ps.: our website is currently on maintenance so, you can just hear, nothing to read or else)


4> Ok! I'll make a 468x60 space inside my layout, so will appear to be part of it.



THANKS for the answer. I'll wait an Admin shows up.

 

[Cynical]

For 2: Yeah, you speak English a lot better than most Americans around here, so I don't think you'll have any problems.

For numbers 1 and 3: It really is more of a matter of x10 being responsible for these files and content. Reverse engineering really is a loophole, and no, it isn't always an excuse in court. Plenty of companies prohibit this kind of tinkering with their software. Even still, this is up to the administrators.

 

[Zenax]

As far as I remember, streaming is ok as long as the files you stream belong to you and not someone else. For example streaming your own music if your an artist.

 

[Cynical]

^ That is correct. You can even host your own music files here, as long as you produced them. However, streaming others' music is questionable.

I'd say it isn't allowed here. Think about: regular radio DJs need special licenses to play artists' music, so internet DJs probably have to follow the same rules.

 

[Corey]

Internet DJs do have to be licensed to play music publicly...

Closing thread for now, please reopen if you have further questions.

-Corey

 

[Micro]

http://www.live365.com/broadcast/index.live You can use that site its quite cheap and start broadcasting legally

 

[DarkDragonLord]

http://www.live365.com/broadcast/index.live You can use that site its quite cheap and start broadcasting legally

This IS legal??

Just this line: "Broadcast your favorite music".

IF that thing is legal, then, my radio is legal. I have my own server and i do play my favorite musics... This website just will make me pay it for hosting and setting up the Shoutcast.

if thats the case, i have my own server, my own host and my own shoutcast.

Then, i can put the player on my web site.




ps.: using this thread to not make a new one, i've already uploaded my website but still appears just a "it works". Even the ad code, (that shows me a "!*Free Proxy Service*!" ad, when i click, appear a "it works" too for the http://www.pcriot.com/)

THat is caused beause of the IP block of brazil?

 

[Micro]

No no no, that site pays for your royalties...

 

[DarkDragonLord]

No no no, that site pays for your royalties...

i was searching in this website you gave me...

http://www.live365.com/popup/dmca_filter.html

Building a Legal Broadcast
Your broadcast is required to comply with the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) and the Live365 Broadcaster Agreement. If your broadcast does not comply, we may remove your station's listing in the Live365 directory and you may see a message indicating that your station is NOT LISTED on your Broadcasting home page.

In order to be listed in our directory, you need to make sure that:


Your station does not violate the Rules: http://www.live365.com/info/rules.html
Your station does have complete ID3 tag information
If your station is broadcasting LIVE or RELAY, you are providing track metadata with your stream

If your station is in violation of the above, we've displayed the reason for the violation on your Broadcast home page. Please check your playlist, correct any violations and cue your playlist. Once all violations have been corrected, your station should re-appear in our station directory within a one- to six-hour period. Additionally, we reserve the right to take other steps to limit the listenership of stations in violation.
Violation Messages
These are the reasons that could appear on your broadcast home page in the event that your playlist is in violation:

1a) Too many tracks from a single artist

1b) Too many consecutive tracks by the same artist

For each three hours of length, your playlist should include no more than four songs (and not more than three songs in a row) from the same recording artist. Please either (a) check your playlist and replace or remove some of the tracks from the artist(s) named in the message, or (b) add more tracks to your playlist to make it longer. If you need additional material to lengthen your playlist, check out our Music Library.

2a) Too many tracks from a single album

2b) Too many consecutive tracks from same album

For each three hours of length, your playlist should not intentionally include more than three songs (and not more than two songs in a row) from the same recording. Please check your playlist and either (a) replace or remove some of the songs from the album(s) named in the message or (b) add more tracks to your playlist to make it longer. Again, our Music Library can be a great source of material for a longer playlist.

3) Fewer artists than permitted

This message means either (a) your playlist includes high concentrations of the same artists, (b) your ID3 tags aren't filled in properly. It's important that your ID3 tags be correct, so please use the ID3 Tag Editor on the Tracks page or Playlist Analyzer to input ID3 Artist, Track, and Album information for each track in your broadcast. (On either page, you can click the track title to open the ID3 tag editor window.)

It's also possible that you are receiving this message because you are broadcasting in LIVE or RELAY mode and you are not providing track metadata with your stream. See below for instructions on how to make sure you are transmitting metadata with your LIVE or RELAY stream.

4) Fewer albums than permitted

This message means either (a) your playlist includes high concentrations of tracks from the same album(s) or (b) your ID3 tags aren't filled in properly. Again, use the ID3 Tag Editor on the Tracks page or Playlist Analyzer to input ID3 Artist, Track, and Album information for each track in your broadcast. (On either page, you can click the track title to open the ID3 tag editor window.)

It's also possible that you are receiving this message because you are broadcasting in LIVE or RELAY mode and you are not providing track metadata with your stream. See below for instructions on how to make sure you are transmitting metadata with your LIVE or RELAY stream.

5) Playlist is too short

Your playlist must be at least one hour long. However, we strongly recommend that your playlist be at least three hours in length (generally, there are 42 to 50 songs in a three-hour playlist). To correct this error, add tracks to the playlist to ensure it is at least one hour long. If you need more material for your playlist, consider making use of our extensive Music Library

If your station is marked "not listed" and none of the above reasons is given, it may be that your ID3 tags are not properly completed. Complete your ID3 tags, then cue your playlist. It will be resubmitted to the search database and reappear in the directory in a one to six-hour window.

Live and Relay Stations
If you are broadcasting in LIVE or RELAY mode, your broadcasting tool must send track metadata to Live365's servers. Most broadcasting tools will handle this for you automatically after some set-up. For non-playlist-based live programming, you can send updates manually via the playlist updater.

The broadcasting tools we recommend are equipped to send LIVE and RELAY metadata that's compatible with Live365. They are: Studio-Live for Windows, Studio-Live for Mac, SAM and Winamp with the Shoutcast plugin. If you choose to use a different broadcasting tool, you can attempt to enable metadata streaming with this handy tool written by one of our broadcasters. For more information on enabling metadata streaming, see this document. We reserve the right to remove LIVE or RELAY stations from the Live365 station directory if those stations are not providing track metadata.

Issues and Exemptions
If you still do not appear in the search listing once you have completed revisions to your tags, you may submit your station for manual review at searchreview@live365.com.

If you are an Independent or Official Artist station or there is some other reason that you feel these rules do not apply to you, please submit your reasons along with your broadcast station name for review to searchreview@live365.com.

Or,

The Rules in Brief

DO NOT:

• <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Play more than 4 songs by the same artist (or 3 in a row) within a 3 hour period. <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Play more than 3 songs from the same album (or 2 in a row) within a 3 hour period. <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Set a playlist that is less than 3 hours long playing on a continuous loop. <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Play a song within 1 hour of its being requested. <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Publish an advance program guide that says what you will be playing.
• Play bootlegs, mash-ups, unauthorized or unreleased recordings.

DO:

• <LI style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2em">Only broadcast sound recordings that are authorized for performance in the U.S.
• Make sure that you properly mark your station IDs, liners and Public Service Announcements with 'ID/PSA' in both the Album and Artist fields.

If my radio follow these rules of DMCA, it will be legal to any country, am i right?
Then, time to chat with the owners

 

[Chris Z]

I don't believe we allow hosting radio/playlists on x10Hosting's servers anyway.

 

[Brandon]

i was searching in this website you gave me...

http://www.live365.com/popup/dmca_filter.html



Or,

If my radio follow these rules of DMCA, it will be legal to any country, am i right?
Then, time to chat with the owners

Also did you acquire a license?

 

[DarkDragonLord]

Also did you acquire a license?

Nope. But, time to get one

I don't believe we allow hosting radio/playlists on x10Hosting's servers anyway.

Its not Hosting.

I have my own Server and my own Radio (not 'my' but i am DJ on Sundays Morning). I just want to put a Player of the Radio in my x10hosting WebSite.




Repeating my ps.:
using this thread to not make a new one, i've already uploaded my website with my FTP Program, but still appears just a "it works", even with my index.html inside the public_html. Even the ad code, (that shows me a "!*Free Proxy Service*!" ad, when i click, appear a "it works" too for the http://www.pcriot.com/)

 

[Zenax]

so in theory what you want to do is link to something that is streaming off your server. I think that should be aloud, but not entirely sure!

 

[Micro]

"Linking to sites containing illegal content is not allowed" - TOS..

Also applies to streams i would assume...


That site pays your royalties if you abide by its rules...

 

[Chris Z]

Please read the announcement I made in the "Free Web-Space" Forum and all child forums. We are not answering any support questions at the moment, since we're in the process of server moves.

 

[Brandon]

Chris this started before then let's finish helping this member.

Micro, he said he will be acquiring a license, so that should pay his fees & what not at the same time.

 

[Chris Z]

Well, Brandon, I was referring to the "It Works" page he's seeing. Obviously he's either gonna see that, or no page at all, for the moment being, since we're moving servers.

 

[DarkDragonLord]

"Linking to sites containing illegal content is not allowed" - TOS..

Also applies to streams i would assume...


That site pays your royalties if you abide by its rules...

its like, on it, i have to pay for a LITTLE space instead of using my unlimited space and bandwidth ~

heh /o/

Well, Brandon, I was referring to the "It Works" page he's seeing. Obviously he's either gonna see that, or no page at all, for the moment being, since we're moving servers.

Sorry sorry!!~
i visited there after i posted... Gomen nasai! \o\~
The cPanel bugs and the "[an error occurred while processing this directive]" everywhere might be as well part of the server moves.
Thanks and sorry asking without reading first

Micro, he said he will be acquiring a license, so that should pay his fees & what not at the same time.

Hmm.. by the way, anyone know how much for it ?
i know might be expensive but, since our radio is supported by the biggest anime event of all latin-america, we can try make something