Is it alright?

[runeps]

Would it be ok if I allow one of my frineds on my messenger in my Cpanel? I need help installing phpbb3 mods and he promises to help me so will it be fine? If I give him Cpanel access by telling him my infomation. I know I can trust him but would it be alright?

 

[lhyman]

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[runeps]

Ok..I guess I wont have a promotion forums then but its..kinda sad that itsa agasint the rules for having help from frineds...thats what its telling me. :\

 

[jmcgowan]

It's not that you can't have somone help you. The ToS is saying that you can't have someone doing the work for you. For example, if you ask here in the forums or on IRC "hey, how do I do this?" people can tell you how to do it, but then it's up to you to go and do it for youself on your own account. What's not allowed is to have someone log in to your account, do the work for you, and then have you turn around and say 'look at this cool thing that my website can do!', even if you give the other person the credit.

 

[zen-r]

I'd have thought that x10 would turn a blind eye (so to speak) to you letting someone else use your access, providing that it was only so that they could help you with building your site, & providing that once their work was done, you changed your password so they could no longer access it.

I've heard of other people getting help this way on the forums.

However, this is just my opinion, so do so at your own risk!

Edit :

It's not that you can't have somone help you. The ToS is saying that you can't have someone doing the work for you. For example, if you ask here in the forums or on IRC "hey, how do I do this?" people can tell you how to do it, but then it's up to you to go and do it for youself on your own account. What's not allowed is to have someone log in to your account, do the work for you, and then have you turn around and say 'look at this cool thing that my website can do!', even if you give the other person the credit.

I don't see that as the reason at all. No-one cares if someone else did the work for you. This isn't a website design competition site! Who do you think designed the templates some people use? It wasn't them!

I think the reason is more to do with fraud detection, & preventing people claiming that someone else uploaded something illegal, so they aren't responsible, etc.

 

[runeps]

I dont know how to install the phpbb3 modifications if the rules dont allow frineds/family to help me..then it really saying you cant "have" help with your forums..to me. :\

 

[lhyman]

I'd have thought that x10 would turn a blind eye (so to speak) to you letting someone else use your access, providing that it was only so that they could help you with building your site, & providing that once their work was done, you changed your password so they could no longer access it.

I've heard of other people getting help this way on the forums.

However, this is just my opinion, so do so at your own risk!

yes, but cpanel access? I would rather die first then let anybody into my cpanel !

 

[runeps]

Well then how can they help me install my modifications into my phpbb3 forums without being in my cpanel please tell me if the only way is with my cpanel then that means its agasint the tos for people to "help" you with your forums...thats what it means..:\

 

[jmcgowan]

runeps, what you're missing is the difference between 'getting help' and 'having someone else do it for you'. There's nothing wrong with getting help from someone. For example, I use phpbb3 as well. Unfortunately, I haven't really messed with things like modifications or playing with the templates too much. However, if you write back with specifics about what you're trying to do, later tonight I'll look into it and see if I can't figure it out and post back here. That's perfectly fine and dandy, because I'm not accessing your account to help you.

 

[descalzo]

Remember, "my friend did it" is not a valid excuse here, or in life in general.

If you allow anyone access to things in your life, you are responsible for the outcome.

So if your pal uploads warez or porn or stores files for his website on your site, you are the one with the cancelled account. You will get no sympathy from the admins and less from us.

 

[zen-r]

(I had already added to my last post, in case you missed it!)

 

[runeps]

Maybe if you didnt understand I said I need help installing modifications to my phpbb3 forums I dont know how I tried before like 50/60 times to be exact always gotten errors phpbb3 is to complicated for me...but I can make forums / install different skins thats about it..I need my frined to go into my file manager in my admincp help me add my modifications the right way but sense its agasint the tos to allow your friends to help you add modifications...with my file manager..then its really..sad..mind as well put in the tos..not allowed to have help at all with your forums..:\

 

[descalzo]

You are beginning to get on my nerves.

 

[jmcgowan]

hold on... there's nothing saying that he can't go into your phpbb3 admincp, just your cPanel. If he can make the changes he needs to make using just the admincp, then you're fine. In fact, it's not that hard to have him register for his own account and then give him admin rights on your phpbb3 board by adding him to the administrators usergroup. As long as he never logs in to your x10hosting cPanel account you're ok either way.

 

[runeps]

He cant install modification with my admincp because he cant upload files from modifications in phpbb3 admincp can he? Unless a new phpbb3 version is out? Because why cant he help me install modifications? Why is that rule even there...because makes me feel like im not allowed to have help..from a trustworthy frined...I knew for 3 years....and descalzo saying he's going to upload porn/sex pics without evening knowing my frined? Kinda rude of you descalzo...

 

[jmcgowan]

your friend may be trustworthy, but who's to say that my friends are trustworthy? or descalzo's friends? Unfortunately the rules are in place because of the idiots/untrustworthy types, and the smart people / trustworthy types have to suffer for it.

My best advice is this... set up an administrator account for your friend for your phpbb3 board. As he needs files uploaded, have him tell you which files need to be uploaded where. After you've uploaded the files for him, he can do whatever needs to be done through the admincp. I know it's not your desired outcome, and it still involves you doing something that you're not very sure of, but it's the best that can be offered.

In my experience, it's better to find creative ways to work within the rules than to complain about the rules themselves and give up. In the end, you'll have done less complaining and you'll have accomplished what you set out to do in the first place, just in a different way.

 

[zen-r]

You are beginning to get on my nerves.

Lol. You should try some of his other threads.

And once again, runeps has managed to annoy people who try to help him.

I don't know why we bother! :nuts:

Anyway, Conclusion:

You have seen the ToS, you know the rules. You can let someone else access your account to help you work on it, but x10 would be within their rights to close your account if they decided they didn't like it.

As I said, feel free to go ahead because other people have done it & got away with it. But do so at your own risk.

Please now : :lockd:

 

[lhyman]

I am now brain dead..... If phpbb3 is to hard for you, then why not try smf or something else... if being a webmaster is to hard for you, then why don't you hire one... if the TOS of FREE web hosting are not to your liking, then go with PAID web hosting (don't know about the TOS but I'm sure you will be able to read them before you pay)

am I missing anything?

 

[runeps]

Lol. You should try some of his other threads.

And once again, runeps has managed to annoy people who try to help him.

I don't know why we bother!

Anyway, Conclusion:

You have seen the ToS, you know the rules. You can let someone else access your account to help you work on it, but x10 would be within their rights to close your account if they decided they didn't like it.

As I said, feel free to go ahead because other people have done it & got away with it. But do so at your own risk.

Please now :

So your suggestion me to break the tos? But im not going to..now sense I read them all im saying its sad that the tos says you cant have help..:\

I am now brain dead..... If phpbb3 is to hard for you, then why not try smf or something else... if being a webmaster is to hard for you, then why don't you hire one... if the TOS of FREE web hosting are not to your liking, then go with PAID web hosting (don't know about the TOS but I'm sure you will be able to read them before you pay)

am I missing anything?

Because phpbb3 im using for a promotion forums..im making its only one with the best cash mod,text ads,banner ads,etc modifications for a promtion forums.

 

[jmcgowan]

ok, after doing a little digging, have you tried using the AutoMOD program (click the link for the info page on it). Supposedly you can use it to automatically install any mod downloaded from phpBB's website. If you haven't yet I'll see if I can't confirm or deny it later today. Now that I've seen some of the possible mods, I'm thinking of trying to install one or two just for kicks...