@zen-r: it's a shame. Until your post there was actually no personal attacks in over 3 pages of posts. ..
I haven't attacked anyone personally. I have attacked the nonsense some people are posting here.
..Everyone here has been completely open about where their views came from, so nothing was 'thinly-veiled' as you've put it....
The "thin veil" comes from the way religion is first being used by the posters as some sort of moralistic reference point, & then quietly dropped & instead their viewpoint then suddenly gets backed up by ridiculous, spurious facts.
.....but please don't assume that anyone is 'bible-bashing' or 'preaching' anything just because we believe that something is wrong while others believe it's ok.
I haven't assumed anything.
The posters I am referring to have written about religion being their reference point when it comes to taking the stance that they do on porn. Furthermore, I am fully aware of posts to other threads that these people have made, confirming to me their religious views.
Whatever religious or other views people have is fine. But in justifying their views on porn by citing religion as their reference point, they have taken a position which provides no room for discussion about the actual rights or wrongs of porn. If, for example, I said I've just started a religion & my new belief is that all apples look like, & are to be treated like tables, would that mean my views are right or that I shouldn't substantiate my beliefs with actual
facts?
I read the original, thread-starting post here shortly after it was made. I decided not to respond because I felt it wasn't a very appropriate area for discussion here, & because it could just be regarded as a piece of statistical "news" for us to be aware of.
However, after 4 days of reading the sort of responses it got, & the repeated, one-sided, biased, unfounded nonsense that was being written, I could bite my tongue no longer. Most people have completely ignored the actual topic, about kids accessing porn, & have used it as an opportunity to spam the thread with comments about
all porn being harmful, even to/ for consenting adults.
This had been pretty much a one-sided attack, because the "moral minority" are very vocal & love to enforce their (mainly religious) beliefs. The silent majority are generally too embarrassed to speak up in this sort of forum, on this issue. So you were able to get away with it, & eventually I felt I had to respond, if only to try to put some sort of balance back into this ridiculous thread.
And yes, the majority
do want porn. As was stated, sex is a multi-billion dollar industry - far larger than that of Hollywood.
Providing porn to children is already illegal (in most countries that I'm aware of) so the problem is in the
enforcement. This is what you could be discussing. To instead attack what consenting adults do, is to take a totally different stance.
Why are you not attacking the computer gaming industry? Many games are violent & consistently played by children, usually with the implicit consent of their parents. This is despite the body of evidence which shows that violent imagery can be more damaging to a child's upbringing than images of nudity. It has long been regarded by experts that the violence in TV, movies or, say, rap music, can be more harmful than nudity. So why isn't this the bigger issue for you? Some might think that it is because those with religious views are prudish & have hang-ups about sex, whilst they have less of a problem with violence - as demonstrated historically by the endless wars being fought in the name of religion.
As I said, you can't lump all types of porn in together. It is a natural instinct for humans to want to see what other people look like nude. And not just 1 or 2 people, with you saving that special "treat" for when you are married. That is a sure-fire way to develop repressed emotions & urges, leading to problems throughout your life. In nature in the past, we would have just seen everyone walking around naked & it would have been normal. By wearing clothes, we have created all these new problems for ourselves.
Who is to say why we have the need to see other people nude? I assume it is to do with our brains needing to see enough bodies, faces etc to work out what are the average features to expect in others, what are the worst, & what are the best (for finding a mate). But whatever the reason, it is normal, so repress these urges at your peril!
I am unlikely to post again in this thread. I find it too annoying when people make comments which are not based on logic or reason, especially when they are completely off-topic from the original post. And I have already ranted on for long enough - I wouldn't mind if I was getting paid for this, but I'm not!
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