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[Twinkie]

I also use Windows because it is original. Linux just looks like a cross between Apple and Windows, with less support. Instead of reading a textbook on how to use Linux (and that monster behind the knock-off GUI that all users will have to confront sooner or later), I am gaming and developing. Tell me ichwar, how is Pong v3 running, any lag?

 

[zen-r]

Hehe.

Is this a game of tag, pie-ing ichwar?

 

[ichwar]

I also use Windows because it is original. Linux just looks like a cross between Apple and Windows, with less support. Instead of reading a textbook on how to use Linux (and that monster behind the knock-off GUI that all users will have to confront sooner or later), I am gaming and developing. Tell me ichwar, how is Pong v3 running, any lag?

Pong v3, never heard of it, so I can't really tell you how well it was coded.

Contrary to what the Dos monsters tell you, you don't have to read a text book to use linux. And linux IS original. Mine looks similar to a mac BEACAUSE I customized it to look like a mac. I can customize it resemble windows even closer (though I don't why I would ever do such a senseless thing) and I can also customize it to look like anything else I want. I could even totally rebuild my own gui!

 

[zen-r]

Much as you enjoy making disparaging remarks about Windows, ichwar, it was in popular use by the public many years before Linux came onto the scene.

Would you prefer that Windows never happened, & that we were still on old PCs with 286 processors, waiting for Linux to happen? Windows made the PC popular & user-friendly, & allowed the income from the success of PC sales to innovate & develop the software, processors & other hardware much further than would otherwise have been possible.

Linux relies on people having put in a whole lot of time doing the coding for free. That's pretty hard to now compete with, when Microsoft & Apple pay people a fair wage for the work that they have done (& whose ideas are now being used & copied to develop Linux).

I could go on, but I'll wait for your next silly comment first.

 

[ichwar]

Sure, if you'd rather pay for junk than get some solid software for free, I won't stop you. :biggrin:

But let me point out that windos has copied many things from linux including the multiuser feature. Windos still isn't very good at that.

 

[zen-r]

"Sure" means you agree with me.

Thanks for that.

I don't need to say anything else now!

 

[ichwar]

lol. Good. Let me know once you need to do something on your computer and I'll help you get the junk off and put the tools on! :biggrin:

 

[Twinkie]

So can you with Window, but everything Windows can do is conveniently overlooked. You even overlooked the point of my previous post. The only difference to Windows and Linux is that Linux is complicated enough that people must learn how to use it to accomplish anything, while Windows is so easy that people neglect to learn and maintain it (which is the reason for frequent BSODs). People use Linux because of an overestimation of its powers, powers that Windows has twice over if people cared to dig beneath the surface. Unfortunately, thats all Linux people do, is dig, and configure, and troubleshoot. Linux is in business because of WINE, and cheap Windows knockoffs. Name some software that is 100% unique to Linux.

In reality, as zenr pointed out, the PC was made popular through use of Windows. Everything Linux is a windows knock off, spare some surface features. WINE is the prime example of what I am talking about, why does it exist if Linux users are really so content?

 

[ichwar]

First let me repeat: You do NOT need to learn how to use linux any more than you need to learn how to use windos. Windos is a whole lot more complicated than linux.

Next, here's some great unix only software that you'll never find on winDos.

Ardour.org
Is unix ONLY. No windos for them!

Eclipse also can only be found on linux.

Of course you probably also know that gimp and open office were designed as native linux applications and were only later ported to windows. Our original versions is stabler and more powerful than your ported versions.


@zen-r, maybe you'd care to tell us what the banner on your x10 website says?

 

[Twinkie]

Well, that might have been the point of this thread to disprove that false notion that Linux is strictly command line, but it still is more complicated, and you do end up interacting with that command line more ofter than you have to in Windows. I understand your distress. Windows though is just as misunderstood as Linux, and people who think that they can run ten instances of Crysis at the same time think that the BSOD on WIndows are any bluer than it would be on Linux?

To put it simply, Linux is under estimated, and Windows is overestimated (for a good reason, but still as bad).

 

[ichwar]

The only reason winDos is over estimated is because micro$oft markets it to be better than it really is. Linux is underestimated because it's not marketed with half it's potential. Also, I find the blue screen of death to be much bluer on windows than on linux.

 

[Twinkie]

Your acting as if sarcasm is fact. True maybe that is why, but the facts in my previous post still remain, and that is the reason for frequent BSODs in inexperienced users. Those who really know how to use Windows would not commonly get those errors, and who is going to help them if they move to Linux? Surely not Linux's wonderful phone support.

 

[ichwar]

Nope, those who port to linux and still need help use the wonderful Linux Forum Support. That's a whole lot better than phone support. And yes, I'm sure that someone who knows not to let more than one program run at a time and not to move the mouse too fast will probably be able to get by without too many BSODs. But what about the rest of us who need our computers to multitask?

 

[Twinkie]

Again with the sarcasm. Anyway, if you need a fast computer, I can build one for you.

http://xfirecomputing.co.cc

It's a small site until I make the real one. I haven't even finished the quick one lol.

I don't believe that the most popular and best supported operating system has any performance issues compared to Linux.

 

[ichwar]

I don't need a new computer any more. I got fed up trying to get winDos to do ANYTHING on a Pentium 4 (that's not a slow processor), so I built my self a new one in april. But even now, I still notice a big speed difference between Linux and winDos on my Intel Core2duo 3.16 ghz with 4 GB DDR3 ram. Is that still not enough power for windos? I really don't want to spend the money on an i7 right now.

Maybe you should give linux a try before you objurgate it any more. ;D

 

[Twinkie]

Windows is just as customizable as Linux. If your computer is having performance issues, then disable some background services and change the theme. You act as if just because Windows has better encapsulation, that it is set in stone. And so what if Windows has more features enabled by default (which you can disable optionally but why would you), surely you know how to work a PC, don't you?

I have a Gateway! Windows preforms great on it. Windows is not the gaming OS for nothing

 

[ichwar]

Of course I know how to manipulate windos. But I'm tired of doing that. I switched to linux because I needed something that would just work.

 

[zen-r]

Lol.

So much for this being a "Post Your GUI" thread! :biggrin:

 

[Twinkie]

Are you serious, Linux is all manipulations. Rather than all the features you want by default being enabled, you have to hunt them down. I prefer working in an already established interface.

 

[ichwar]

Are you serious, Linux is all manipulations. Rather than all the features you want by default being enabled, you have to hunt them down. I prefer working in an already established interface.

Again, you're words betray your ignorance of Linux. Want me to walk you through a setup sometime?